Mr. F Posted August 1, 2016 Report Share Posted August 1, 2016 So the DSM will start from seed glosso, emmersed grown Alternathera, and maybe some P. helferi. Planning on filling the egg crate with lava rock or power sand special-s just to give it a shot (though that requires another 4 hr round trip trek to SF). Then topping it all off with ~2-3" of Amazonia, which is the reason for the egg crate and lava rock in the first place; increase circulation beneath the soil and hold it all in place. Here's the egg crate layout I went with. Easy to cut but it also cuts you easily, wear gloves.Front view:Top-down view:Edit:Decided to change up the species going in the tank. I already have some and need to order some still. Open to suggestions but this is what in planning so far.Fauna:TBs (BB and shadow panda)Possibly fire reds if I can get them to survive in such a low pHFlora:Micranthemum "Monte Carlo"Eleocharis "Belem"AR miniHygrophila salicifolia Hygrophila salicifolia var. "red green" Euryth, ohmiko, ruuuey and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soothing Shrimp Posted September 16, 2016 Report Share Posted September 16, 2016 update? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. F Posted September 16, 2016 Author Report Share Posted September 16, 2016 update? Been busy lately and neglecting this project, but ask and you shall recieve. I've plastidipped the back and left since it will be a corner tank. Made a couple small adjustments and decided on a hardscape/substrate layout. Here's the eggcrate prepared for the new river that's gonna sweep from back left to front right. I'll be ordering some Eleo. Belem next week and I have the montecarlo I'm planning on using in the foreground, so I gotta get this tank set up and filled with substrate this weekend.Then I will be asking for input on what plants to add the background!!!Getting a 20" finnex 24/7 p+ for $60 and a 30" for $70 today, so I'm pretty excited and might grab two 20" Will update later once I figure out this river and have the substrate in. ShrimpP and Soothing Shrimp 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soothing Shrimp Posted September 16, 2016 Report Share Posted September 16, 2016 This looks like this project will rock! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. F Posted September 18, 2016 Author Report Share Posted September 18, 2016 Got the Finnex! Soothing Shrimp and ohmiko 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. F Posted September 18, 2016 Author Report Share Posted September 18, 2016 Oh and about 7lbs of okho stone on the for $3.50/lb! Soothing Shrimp 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Back On The Block 2016 Posted September 18, 2016 Report Share Posted September 18, 2016 Looks nice,I like those stones Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Back On The Block 2016 Posted September 18, 2016 Report Share Posted September 18, 2016 Where did the stones come from?........local?........or shipped? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. F Posted September 18, 2016 Author Report Share Posted September 18, 2016 Where did the stones come from?........local?........or shipped?LFS in Chinatown, San Fran, CA called 6th Avenue Aquarium. They were marked $3.99/lb, which is already a buck or two less than anywhere else I've seen em, but then he gave em to me for $3.49/lb! It's a pretty cool shop and you get to net your own fish/shrimp. But if you're just curious about getting some, they're called "okho" or "dragon" stone. They're available in a lot of places, just maybe not at this low of a price. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. F Posted September 18, 2016 Author Report Share Posted September 18, 2016 Still struggling with the sand river portion. Deciding how to keep it separate from the aquasoil above the eggcrate. Suggestions? I've tried think plexiglass and even thinner plastic, but it doesn't give me the look and it's not very easy to work with. I'm looking for something malleable and moldable that will harden to how I shape it, but obviously has to be shrimp safe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. F Posted October 18, 2016 Author Report Share Posted October 18, 2016 I suppose I should update this since its been a month! I started the DSM on 9/8 so we're just about 10 days in. Some good growth although the yogurt method hasn't shown any results as of yet.Day 1 FTS:Day 10 FTS:Day 1 vs 10 overhead: 240ric, ruuuey and Shrimp Life 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ctaylor3737 Posted October 20, 2016 Report Share Posted October 20, 2016 Looking good like it!!Taylor's Aquatics - Rare Plants & Invertshttp://www.taylorsaquatics.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. F Posted October 28, 2016 Author Report Share Posted October 28, 2016 Uh oh! It's that day already!Final plant decisions were:Monte Carlo Glossostigma elatinoides (Chinese seed kind so probably not...)Staurogyne biharLimnophila aromatica miniCuphea anagalloideaAR miniAlternathera rosaefolia Staurogyne repensStaurogyne sp. purpleRanunculus inclinata Lobellia cardinalis Mini Xmas mossFissidens fontanusMini pellia Gonna add Staurogyne Porto Velho and Pogostemon helferi red, but later on once I grow them out where they're doing good and propagate them... so I don't kill the few I have!Suggestions on livestock! I'll post a picture tomorrow once he plants have perked up more and the water's cleared. ohmiko 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ohmiko Posted October 28, 2016 Report Share Posted October 28, 2016 This is for shrimp right looks amaaaaazing!!! Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ohmiko Posted October 28, 2016 Report Share Posted October 28, 2016 This is for shrimp right [emoji3] looks amaaaaazing!!! You should be on the first television show of Tanked:Shrimp edition Sent from my iPhone using TapatalkSent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Mr. F 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. F Posted October 30, 2016 Author Report Share Posted October 30, 2016 Woo! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. F Posted November 2, 2016 Author Report Share Posted November 2, 2016 pH has been around 6.2 (between 6.0-6.4, lol) for a few days but dropped to 6 today. Ammonia was holding at 4ppm for 3 days and now its at 2 ppm. Kh is 0-1, GH is 6-8. TDS is around 225. This was all after a very moist 2 week +1 day dry start. So Im hoping i see the ammonia go down to 0 in the next week or so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chappy6107 Posted November 27, 2016 Report Share Posted November 27, 2016 you mentioned one of the plants: Glossostigma elatinoides (Chinese seed kind so probably not...) is this the same plant below Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chappy6107 Posted November 27, 2016 Report Share Posted November 27, 2016 I grew this from a seed, but do not know what kind it is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. F Posted November 27, 2016 Author Report Share Posted November 27, 2016 Yeah, I guess I didn't keep this forum up as much as the other one on TPT. I quickly found it wasn't glosso at all. It gets very large and kinda like half stem half grass. I don't have a close up right now but here's the tank yesterday and you can see it on the left popping up. mayphly 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chappy6107 Posted November 27, 2016 Report Share Posted November 27, 2016 have any idea what it is? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. F Posted November 27, 2016 Author Report Share Posted November 27, 2016 No idea. It MOST DEFINITELY not Glosso. It looks like maybe a hygrophila sp? Very weedy/fast growing over the HC and stuff.I'll take pics when home tomorrow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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