therehere3 Posted May 9, 2017 Report Share Posted May 9, 2017 Hello everyone.... I have done TONS of research and can pretty much say I know basically everything about cherry shrimp care.... HOWEVER, I cannot seem to get it right for whatever reason....... Here is my tank specs: 10g tank (100% shrimp only) cycled tank (2 sponge filters) 3 small cholla wood 1 indian almond leaf java moss lava rocks (for surface area for baceria) heater Temp: Constant 72F TDS: 240 GH: 8 KH: 4 PH: 7.4 Ammonia: 0ppm Nitrite: 0ppm Nitrate: ~5ppm or lower (like i said, tank is cycled) So, to get my water quality good, I started with RO water (0TDS) then I remineralized it using Salty Shrimp's "Shrimp Mineral" to raise both KH and GH to my current stats. I started with 20 cherry shrimp. Now I have about 17. I have had one cherry die, every like 2-3 days. What the HELL is going on!?? I am getting very worried.... In my mind, there is nothing wrong that I can see!? What killed these shrimps? :/ I'm very lost.... 0.o Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ItsCRAYCRAY Posted May 9, 2017 Report Share Posted May 9, 2017 Hello everyone.... I have done TONS of research and can pretty much say I know basically everything about cherry shrimp care.... HOWEVER, I cannot seem to get it right for whatever reason....... Here is my tank specs: 10g tank (100% shrimp only) cycled tank (2 sponge filters) 3 small cholla wood java moss lava rocks (for surface area for baceria) heater Temp: Constant 72FTDS: 240GH: 8KH: 4PH: 7.4Ammonia: 0ppmNitrite: 0ppmNitrate: ~5ppm or lower (like i said, tank is cycled) So, to get my water quality good, I started with RO water (0TDS) then I remineralized it using Salty Shrimp's "Shrimp Mineral" to raise both KH and GH to my current stats. I started with 20 cherry shrimp. Now I have about 17. I have had one cherry die, every like 2-3 days. What the HELL is going on!?? I am getting very worried.... In my mind, there is nothing wrong that I can see!? What killed these shrimps? :/ I'm very lost.... 0.oHow often do you do water changes and what percentage do you swap out?Sent from my SM-N920T using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
therehere3 Posted May 9, 2017 Author Report Share Posted May 9, 2017 9 minutes ago, ItsCRAYCRAY said: How often do you do water changes and what percentage do you swap out? Sent from my SM-N920T using Tapatalk Well since its only a 10g I only do small changes every week. I do about 5 cups. Maybe like 1 gallon a week??? You would think my TDS would increase as when water quality is getting poor and needs a water change. So I don't think its that :/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobthesushiguy Posted May 9, 2017 Report Share Posted May 9, 2017 What do you feed them? Im not good enough to give advice, but maybe I can pull something that could of been overlooked. Do you feed anything with copper? Too much protein? How long do you leave your lights on? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deez Aquatics Posted May 9, 2017 Report Share Posted May 9, 2017 You say tank is cycled. How did you cycle the tank? Sometimes people say cycled when the set up and tank and just let it run for a period of time. Cycling a tank means you add something to grow beneficial bacteria. If this was done properly you will have a tank that has a fully mature biological filter as well as a surplus of bacteria for the shrimp to graze on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OMG Aquatics Posted May 9, 2017 Report Share Posted May 9, 2017 Where did you get these shrimps? The source is just as important. Undershrimp 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
therehere3 Posted May 9, 2017 Author Report Share Posted May 9, 2017 10 hours ago, bobthesushiguy said: What do you feed them? Im not good enough to give advice, but maybe I can pull something that could of been overlooked. Do you feed anything with copper? Too much protein? How long do you leave your lights on? My feedings diet are ok. However, just for your knowledge, it's ok to feed them food with copper trace elements in their food. They actually need that stuff for healthy bodily systems. However, copper in the water is DEADLY, for example dropping meds in water. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
therehere3 Posted May 9, 2017 Author Report Share Posted May 9, 2017 9 hours ago, Deez Aquatics said: You say tank is cycled. How did you cycle the tank? Sometimes people say cycled when the set up and tank and just let it run for a period of time. Cycling a tank means you add something to grow beneficial bacteria. If this was done properly you will have a tank that has a fully mature biological filter as well as a surplus of bacteria for the shrimp to graze on. I've been in the hobby awhile now. I know when my tank is cycled, and of course done properly:) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
therehere3 Posted May 9, 2017 Author Report Share Posted May 9, 2017 7 hours ago, OMG Aquatics said: Where did you get these shrimps? The source is just as important. Well I purchased my shrimp from a place called Aquarium Depot. They had maybe about 100 shrimp in their 10g with a few in there dead while others were eating them or eating moss balls. So I don't know exactly how "bad" or "dangerous" that is. I got them about 1-2 weeks ago. You think they came to me bad? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OMG Aquatics Posted May 9, 2017 Report Share Posted May 9, 2017 2 minutes ago, therehere3 said: Well I purchased my shrimp from a place called Aquarium Depot. They had maybe about 100 shrimp in their 10g with a few in there dead while others were eating them or eating moss balls. So I don't know exactly how "bad" or "dangerous" that is. I got them about 1-2 weeks ago. You think they came to me bad? You answered that question yourself. Shrimp Life 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbpelletier Posted May 9, 2017 Report Share Posted May 9, 2017 I am setting up a 10 gallon with a matten filter as well for the same purpose. Except I am going for CRS. I picked up some Bacter AE and set up the tank with tap water. 1 week in I did a 90% water change I am in week 2 and plan to do the same water change method. After about week 4/5 I plan to get the TDS right and the water proper. I am already seeing little Cyclops appearing on the glass. Curious as to how you went about your cycle? Subscribed to see how this turns out for you. Best of luck. Sent from my SM-N920V using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OMG Aquatics Posted May 9, 2017 Report Share Posted May 9, 2017 3 minutes ago, dbpelletier said: I am setting up a 10 gallon with a matten filter as well for the same purpose. Except I am going for CRS. I picked up some Bacter AE and set up the tank with tap water. 1 week in I did a 90% water change I am in week 2 and plan to do the same water change method. After about week 4/5 I plan to get the TDS right and the water proper. I am already seeing little Cyclops appearing on the glass. Curious as to how you went about your cycle? Subscribed to see how this turns out for you. Best of luck. Sent from my SM-N920V using Tapatalk Bacter AE is does not contain any nitrifying bacteria. Bacter AE is simply to improve biofilm development and also contains some probiotics. Also you shouldn't be using tap water to cycle a CRS tank unless your tap water KH is 0. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Undershrimp Posted May 9, 2017 Report Share Posted May 9, 2017 Well I purchased my shrimp from a place called Aquarium Depot. They had maybe about 100 shrimp in their 10g with a few in there dead while others were eating them or eating moss balls. So I don't know exactly how "bad" or "dangerous" that is. I got them about 1-2 weeks ago. You think they came to me bad?I got some from a LFS and had them about three weeks. One that looked fine just died out of nowhere. A week later another, but this one seemed to have some dark areas on it that looked blackish red, other than that looked fine. Guessing it may be black spot disease. We never know where these shrimp have been unless we get them from someone reputable that we can actually talk to. My LFS has no idea where these shrimp are really from other than the supplier. Bacterial problems suck. You could try putting 2-3 alder leaves and a couple alder cones in. You want tannin brown water, it's like an antibacterial. Shrimp that had darker areas are now lightening up. It's worth a shot at least. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shrimp Life Posted May 9, 2017 Report Share Posted May 9, 2017 OMG is right. Those are imported shrimp and the die off is usually what happens with imports. Try some homebred. I have some healthy homebred for sale right now. Alot use a magnifying glass to check for parasites as imports have them often. Best of luck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
therehere3 Posted May 9, 2017 Author Report Share Posted May 9, 2017 2 hours ago, OMG Aquatics said: You answered that question yourself. So you would agree they came to me bad? My others will live and prosper thought right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
therehere3 Posted May 9, 2017 Author Report Share Posted May 9, 2017 1 hour ago, dazalea said: OMG is right. Those are imported shrimp and the die off is usually what happens with imports. Try some homebred. I have some healthy homebred for sale right now. Alot use a magnifying glass to check for parasites as imports have them often. Best of luck Awesome, where is your store to see if I want to buy from you?:) joeyb347 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OMG Aquatics Posted May 9, 2017 Report Share Posted May 9, 2017 4 minutes ago, therehere3 said: So you would agree they came to me bad? My others will live and prosper thought right? When shrimps are stressed or improperly handled, they don't die overnight. They usually die randomly. This is why a lot of people who purchases shrimp from "pre-sales" gets their whole order arrive with barely any DOA but by the end of the month 50-100% of the shrimps are dead in your tank. Shrimple minded, Shrimp Life and joeyb347 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OMG Aquatics Posted May 9, 2017 Report Share Posted May 9, 2017 6 minutes ago, therehere3 said: Awesome, where is your store to see if I want to buy from you?:) Better hurry before they are sold out Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyb347 Posted May 9, 2017 Report Share Posted May 9, 2017 Better hurry before they are sold out [emoji4]Can i have the website please?Sent from my SM-G930P using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shrimp Life Posted May 9, 2017 Report Share Posted May 9, 2017 you can jus tbuy from me here. I have cherry shrimp 50 for $50 shipping included , pics are also on my for sale post, if you look in the marketplace you will see it there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyb347 Posted May 9, 2017 Report Share Posted May 9, 2017 you can jus tbuy from me here. I have cherry shrimp 50 for $50 shipping included , pics are also on my for sale post, if you look in the marketplace you will see it there.Where can i find it?Sent from my SM-G930P using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chappy6107 Posted May 9, 2017 Report Share Posted May 9, 2017 18 minutes ago, joeyb347 said: Where can i find it? Sent from my SM-G930P using Tapatalk OMG posted the link a few posts above ^^ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyb347 Posted May 9, 2017 Report Share Posted May 9, 2017 OMG posted the link a few posts above ^^May you please enter the link again. For some reason its not coming up for me..Sent from my SM-G930P using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotKelly Posted May 9, 2017 Report Share Posted May 9, 2017 3 shrimp deaths out of a 20 shrimp order is actually pretty good Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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