Rechni Posted August 8, 2017 Report Share Posted August 8, 2017 I recently setup a small (10 gal) aquarium. It was cycled, so I added some endlers and about 5 red cherry shrimp from an established tank. Soon after, I purchased another endler from the local fish store. Though apparently fine on arrival, he soon began to grow emaciated, refused food, and died. The other fish in the tank also began to hollow and lose their color, and then the RCS began to die every few days. Water parameters are good: 0 Ammonia ) 0 Nitrite 5 Nitrate. Temp is 78 degrees. On recommendation, I first dosed the tank with Metro and Focus for 5 days. No improvement was apparent, so I started a regimen of PraziPro. One fish seems to have partially recovered (he swims around and seems happy), but he is still not eating. The only other surviver often floats at the top of the tank. One interesting thing to note is that, when these fish died, most of them died with their noses down and their tails up. If all is lost, then I'm thinking of removing the substrate and starting the tank over with only RCS. I'd like to keep my rocks and filter media so the tank doesn't have to cycle again, but do you think the internal parasites from the fish would infect the RCS? If so, does anyone have an idea about how long it would take before the parasites die without a host? Thank you for your help. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shrimp Life Posted August 8, 2017 Report Share Posted August 8, 2017 for neos, 78 is too high. Aim closer to 70 the emaciated fish, thats called fish TB and its contagious ans usually keeps going to wipe out all your fish. Shrimple minded 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shrimple minded Posted August 8, 2017 Report Share Posted August 8, 2017 TIL about fish TB. Interesting reading...... Shrimp Life 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chappy6107 Posted August 8, 2017 Report Share Posted August 8, 2017 I would start from scratch. bleach everything and start over. this kind of thing happens all the time with fish when not quarantined. Certain sicknesses just dont go away. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rechni Posted August 9, 2017 Author Report Share Posted August 9, 2017 I suppose it could be TB. The tell-tale sign, in addition to wasting, is that the spine of the fish curves, and so far none of mine have done that. Also, if it is TB, I've heard you can't just bleach the tank--it has to be destroyed. I still wonder, though, whether whatever this is would transmit to shrimp. I'll probably euthanize the fish soon, but I'd like to keep the tank running if there is no danger of transmission to the RCS. Also, thanks for responding. I'm really at my wit's end right now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rechni Posted August 10, 2017 Author Report Share Posted August 10, 2017 Any other thoughts out there? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobthesushiguy Posted August 12, 2017 Report Share Posted August 12, 2017 What kind of rocks are you using? (some are not safe) For fish, I would not mind because sometimes they all die together. How did u introduce them into the tank? Did you slowly adjust them into it? The most basic rule is making ur tap water safe, but I think u got that down. If your shrimps are safe... I would wait a bit before bleaching the whole thing. The endlers can often be weak before purchase or just not doing well :/ super stressed. I seriously think u shud give it one more shot at a different place for endlers. See what happens and then you can make a different decision. I had someone I know try 2x for fish and it worked out well the 2nd time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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