Shrimpmaster Posted February 13, 2015 Report Share Posted February 13, 2015 Hi shrimp party people, This seems to be an active forum with experienced members. I've got a question, maybe someone around here knows the answer. I've got a mix tank where I put in all kind of shrimp. Just for the fun of it, no cross breeding intentions. But a while ago, three nice yellow shrimp popped up. I'm 99% sure the mother is a Tangerine Tiger. But I can't figure out who's the daddy The moment the mother got berried there were about this varieties in the tank: Crystal Red Crystal Black Crystal Red Spotted head PRL Crystal Red Taiwan Bee Panda / King Kong Tangerine tigers Normal tigers Light Blue Tigers Two Black Cherry shrimp but they died soon and I thought both were female Red bolt Blue bolt Princess Bee Should be all of them. Any idea? Pics: CharlesWex, Edwardnah, Louie and 7 others 10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miwu Posted February 13, 2015 Report Share Posted February 13, 2015 Good looking yellow shrimp! That looks just like a yellow King Kong. From the very limited info out there about yellow king kongs, they're a cross (or result of multiple crosses) between tigers and Taiwan bees. So my guess is the father is either a panda/BKK or a blue bolt. By the way, that's a good variety in a single tank! JamesHe and woopderson 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shrimpmaster Posted February 13, 2015 Author Report Share Posted February 13, 2015 Indeed I saw the 'Yellow King Kong' from Silane, but not sure what it is. But a lot of people have already crossed Tangerine tiger x TWB right? Also with yellow shrimp as a result? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DETAquarium Posted February 13, 2015 Report Share Posted February 13, 2015 Wow! Gorgeous Caridina Yellow Shrimp. It would have to come from a cross breeding from a Tiger and TB. I don't think any TB alone TB x TB carries a yellow gene, unless already crossed with a Tiger. Similar to the yellow on Super Tigers. Hope you try to breed more of them, I am sure many would be interested here. Tracy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jadenlea Posted February 13, 2015 Report Share Posted February 13, 2015 Pretty yellow shrimp but I like the ones that look purple even better!@! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adrand Posted February 13, 2015 Report Share Posted February 13, 2015 Sorry no answer from me but wanted to say thanks for sharing the pics. Beautiful shrimp! Keep the yellows going. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shrimpmaster Posted February 13, 2015 Author Report Share Posted February 13, 2015 The Taiwan Bee / Shadow Bee are pure, not mixed with anything else. All I can do I suppose is to breed more with this 3 yellow ones haha. I could not resist putting one yellow one female with egg spot in my Black Shadow Bee tank. Just to see if they breed or not. After that I will try to separate those 3 and see if it can be stabilized. Maybe in the meantime more show up. If anyone has a clue though, feel free to post it here. Louie 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soothing Shrimp Posted February 13, 2015 Report Share Posted February 13, 2015 Yellow KK is from TT x KK. Don't know if yours have the same genetics, however you have those shrimp in your tank. Louie 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shrimpmaster Posted February 13, 2015 Author Report Share Posted February 13, 2015 Are you sure? I thought a lot of people crossbreed TT x KK already, but I've not seen yellow cardina shrimp besides the 'Yellow King Kong' from Silane? For example TT x KK: http://www.sharnbrookshrimp.co.uk/TiBee_Shrimp_Tangerine_x_KK_Cross_F1_Hybrids_p/tibee-tt.htm But to test, I will add a female TT in my Black Shadow Bee tank and see what will happen! Also I forgot to tell this: When they eggs of the female TT hatch I saw about 15 baby shrimp. 12 turn out to be quite normal TT with slightly color variations and 3 where the yellow one. Thats how I think it was, because a lot of shrimp in this tank it's not 100% sure to say. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soothing Shrimp Posted February 13, 2015 Report Share Posted February 13, 2015 Yepper. It's like any other selective breeding. You find the trait you want, and work toward making those breed true. I think it will be great having a 2nd strain of yellow KK going. It can only increase health with both over time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shrimpscales Posted February 14, 2015 Report Share Posted February 14, 2015 Those shrimp are amazing. So is the photography! Crazyfishlady 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesHe Posted February 14, 2015 Report Share Posted February 14, 2015 Yeap, It's Caridina sp yellow. aka Yellow KK. Ellen Wang did before. and her Yellow KK breeds true now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miwu Posted February 14, 2015 Report Share Posted February 14, 2015 Silane is not the only one who has them. However, it looks like you're the only one here with the data/experience so we'll know the answer to your question after you're done with your experimentation. Not many breeders share this kind of information so all we are doing is passing on what we heard. I think one of the biggest reasons why shrimp genetics are so unclear to us is because we keep them in groups and it's hard to obtain hard solid data to base our hypotheses on. It'd be nice if you could isolate individual pairs to see what each specific cross results in. Louie, Steve R. and Soothing Shrimp 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve R. Posted February 14, 2015 Report Share Posted February 14, 2015 Good points. Few people do good controlled experiments (and share the data). And importantly, the outcome has to be reproducible. Too much of the information is based on anecdotes. Awesome shrimpmaster that you are sharing the information you have (great pics, as well). This is what makes the difference between somebody who is a real shrimp enthusiast and somebody who is foremost businessman/woman. One reason why I love this forum is that many people share their information lilted secrets. autocat and Soothing Shrimp 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shrimpmaster Posted February 14, 2015 Author Report Share Posted February 14, 2015 Thanks everybody for your contribution. So I will continue this topic with the evolvement of my experiments and with the goal to breed a group of them. About sharing information. For me this is clear. When you share information we will evolve faster and better together. And by sharing information you force yourself to keep improving instead of sitting back and profit form your temporary lead. Other people will find out after all. But I will be honest, when some magic shrimp pops up, I will keep the information for myself for a while, just to enjoy being the only one in the world for a moment haha. And then share it anyways. I will update this topic when something new happens. Soothing Shrimp, Steve R. and Crazyfishlady 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesHe Posted February 15, 2015 Report Share Posted February 15, 2015 Are you sure? I thought a lot of people crossbreed TT x KK already, but I've not seen yellow cardina shrimp besides the 'Yellow King Kong' from Silane? For example TT x KK: http://www.sharnbrookshrimp.co.uk/TiBee_Shrimp_Tangerine_x_KK_Cross_F1_Hybrids_p/tibee-tt.htm But to test, I will add a female TT in my Black Shadow Bee tank and see what will happen! Also I forgot to tell this: When they eggs of the female TT hatch I saw about 15 baby shrimp. 12 turn out to be quite normal TT with slightly color variations and 3 where the yellow one. Thats how I think it was, because a lot of shrimp in this tank it's not 100% sure to say. It's not from Silane. Ellen breeds Yellow KK. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Soothing Shrimp Posted February 15, 2015 Report Share Posted February 15, 2015 Sometimes people like their shrimp tactics to be secret, and throw a curve ball occasionally. By breeding crs and KK, I don't see where yellow would come in- only misch, while Silane's cross makes more sense to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alibird Posted February 15, 2015 Report Share Posted February 15, 2015 Wow these are amazing and look very much like the yellow KK!! I can't wait to see what else you discover! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shrimpmaster Posted March 17, 2015 Author Report Share Posted March 17, 2015 So I put one female in my black TWB tank. She got berried pretty fast: She did not drop the eggs, so for me a sign the were fertilized. But today (about 3,5 weeks later) the eggs hatched, but so far I don't see a single shrimplet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesHe Posted March 17, 2015 Report Share Posted March 17, 2015 So I put one female in my black TWB tank. She got berried pretty fast: She did not drop the eggs, so for me a sign the were fertilized. But today (about 3,5 weeks later) the eggs hatched, but so far I don't see a single shrimplet. Congrats, It takes 2 weeks for juveniles to come out. fishcrazy, Edwardnah and aquariumlover10 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesHe Posted March 30, 2015 Report Share Posted March 30, 2015 This picture is an evident that Yellow KK is TT x TB Shrimpmaster, Soothing Shrimp and guppies 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soothing Shrimp Posted March 30, 2015 Report Share Posted March 30, 2015 Love the stripes on the yellow background. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shrimpmaster Posted April 21, 2015 Author Report Share Posted April 21, 2015 Good news, again I don't know how, but 3 more yellow bastards showed up in my mix tank. I added them to the tank with the 3 yellow females. Hope that at least one male is present and they can start building a group. I wonder if the offspring will all be yellow. sewoeno, Soothing Shrimp and Crazyfishlady 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soothing Shrimp Posted April 21, 2015 Report Share Posted April 21, 2015 I love this var. Do you have a pic of the group? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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