Soothing Shrimp Posted February 22, 2015 Report Share Posted February 22, 2015 OKay, I'm pretty much out of space for more tanks to aid my projects. So time to add more space on top of space. LOL I know many people use Marina Breeder Boxes with great success. Any suggestion on what pump to use for it, and how to attach it? Also, any tips on jerryrigs to make it better, such as something over the opening to make sure shrimp don't flow over? CharlesWex, Timothylem and Alfrediacag 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mayphly Posted February 22, 2015 Report Share Posted February 22, 2015 How many breeder boxes are you planning on running? I use this one for my 7G TB tank which I hook up to a med breeder box http://www.ebay.com/itm/Aquarium-Air-Pump-16-tubing-4-suction-cups-2-air-stones-1-check-valve-a-Tees-/261396711587?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3cdc7548a3 They use to sell this pump for $8.00 shipped. It's more than enough for a single box. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soothing Shrimp Posted February 22, 2015 Author Report Share Posted February 22, 2015 I'm thinking a small in tank water pump to hook up to it... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mayphly Posted February 22, 2015 Report Share Posted February 22, 2015 The Marina breeder box runs on an air pump. It works like an air lift tube and pumps the water into the box. It comes with a air flow adjuster to control the amount of flow you want into the box. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soothing Shrimp Posted February 22, 2015 Author Report Share Posted February 22, 2015 yepper. However several people have added water pumps instead for a more smooth flow of water. I like that idea. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soothing Shrimp Posted February 22, 2015 Author Report Share Posted February 22, 2015 I found couple photos from Moose at TPT from a couple years ago on rigging an Elite water pump to a large Marina: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mayphly Posted February 22, 2015 Report Share Posted February 22, 2015 Gotcha! The Elite pump has a high and low setting and recommended for tanks up to 3g. That looks good! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soothing Shrimp Posted February 22, 2015 Author Report Share Posted February 22, 2015 heh Glad we're on the same page. Now before you get too excited, the pump has been discontinued. This pump used to be under $7 including shipping. Now it's more money when you can find it because it isn't being produced anymore. So there has to be a low cost replacement solution somewhere. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mayphly Posted February 22, 2015 Report Share Posted February 22, 2015 Would something like this work http://www.ebay.com/itm/AC-110V-3W-US-Plug-Submersible-Water-Pump-Aquarium-Fountain-Fish-Pond-Air-Pump/361088225085?_trksid=p2047675.c100009.m1982&_trkparms=aid%3D777000%26algo%3DABA.MBE%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D29310%26meid%3D0811857dc2ea4ed9950fcab46c0e0458%26pid%3D100009%26rk%3D1%26rkt%3D1%26mehot%3Dpp%26sd%3D131207478304 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dendrobatez Posted February 22, 2015 Report Share Posted February 22, 2015 I like this series of submersible pumps for inline use http://www.amazon.com/EcoPlus-728490-Submersible-Pump-75GPH/dp/B0018WVNX2 They have multiple outflow fitting sizes and inflow fits perfectly with 1/2 or 3/4" pvc so you can easily make a homemade sponge filter inflow. There is also another series with comparable maximum outflow but they are adjustable, they cost about $1 more per pump Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Posted February 22, 2015 Report Share Posted February 22, 2015 The Sudo Satellite Breeding Box has 2 upgrades you can buy. One is a airstone intake which I am told smooths out the flow. The other upgrade is a SS mesh cover for overflow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elo500 Posted February 22, 2015 Report Share Posted February 22, 2015 Made for breeder boxes http://www.amazon.com/Shiruba-Aqua-Power-Head-40-Gallon/dp/B008LV2KUS/ref=pd_sim_petsupplies_1?ie=UTF8&refRID=08YXQPJKWTZE6A2RS88Y Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monty703 Posted February 22, 2015 Report Share Posted February 22, 2015 I have used these Marina boxes for years now since they came out....why do you want more flow? I find the females don't really like too much disturbance in the box coming from the spout, so having a bigger flow would make them uncomfortable IMO. If I turn my flow up by mistake, my females go nuts for a few minutes till I turn it back down, so havinga high powered flow would make it like Niagara Falls inside that box. As for the exit part, I put a small piece of mesh, fitted to the slots on each side, so its tight and won't move, then add a piece of med size pored foam (basically a small cube) cut to fit that I put behind the mesh. This allows the water to flow back into the tank, but small baby shrimps (and escaping mothers) can't slide through the gap. I found the gate thing that comes with the box is good for trapping Adult shrimps, but tiny babies can swim right up and over they go into the main tank. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soothing Shrimp Posted February 22, 2015 Author Report Share Posted February 22, 2015 Monty, thanks for the tips on the gate. I need tips like those. The air pump lift I've used before. Not too impressed with it. It gurgles, makes noise and splashes water out of the hole. The water pumps have adjustable knobs to allow them to be turned down to dribble a constant flow of water. Not full force. This is much more appealing to me. Great suggestions. Thanks! A major factor to consider for me is if I had to spend $17 on each pump, my money wouldn't go very far. I have 60+ tanks to take care of. heh Also, the sudo is twice the price than a Marina is. The EcoPlus Submersible Pump, 75GPH is an option, as well as the water fountain one. Both within my price range. I think I'll try the water fountain one first for a couple different reasons. It's small, adjustable, only has a 53gph flow on max, and cost is right at only $3 to try. Thanks guys! Anyone have the best place to buy Marina boxes for the best price? Recommended size? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Posted February 22, 2015 Report Share Posted February 22, 2015 Also, the sudo is twice the price than a Marina is. Yes, but the Sudo upgrades fit on the Marina, thought you knew they were essentially knock offs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soothing Shrimp Posted February 22, 2015 Author Report Share Posted February 22, 2015 I didn't know that, however with Marina being much cheaper, I'll take Marina and make my own upgrades to save money. Thanks for the info though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monty703 Posted February 22, 2015 Report Share Posted February 22, 2015 make them yourself out of patio window mesh, or use what I do....plastic rug making forms, just cut them to size. That sudo kit is basically just mesh, so do it yourself and save money. I can understand using the pump now, but when using more than one breeder box, that's expensive as all heck! I agree that nozzle noise is annoying, but I have an air connector on mine as I run 3 tanks from one line, so I can adjust the flow myself, and keep it to a minimum for noise. I have one Top fin 4 outlet pump that I use and run lines to all my tanks, with offshoot lines with connectors. I have 8 tanks running off this one pump with plenty of flow, and I can turn this pump up or down as I want. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soothing Shrimp Posted February 22, 2015 Author Report Share Posted February 22, 2015 Thanks Monty. I have an AL-60 I use to drive all my double sponge filters on all my racks. I may go to air driven breeder boxes too, however I'd really like to explore the water pump option. Just ordered 3, so we'll see what comes of it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mayphly Posted February 22, 2015 Report Share Posted February 22, 2015 Soothing, Did you order the ebay ones from china? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soothing Shrimp Posted February 22, 2015 Author Report Share Posted February 22, 2015 yepper. 3 of 'em. mayphly 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mbenjamin16 Posted February 22, 2015 Report Share Posted February 22, 2015 amazon you can get the marina breeder boxes for pretty cheap. i got a large one for about $10 and a medium sized one for about $8. i use them for acclumating right now. Soothing Shrimp 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jumpsmasher Posted February 23, 2015 Report Share Posted February 23, 2015 this is the first upgrade set for the SUDO breeder boxes; basically a mini airstone in the intake side. It definitely smooth out the flow and and the maximum flow, it also includes a replacement grill with larger gaps on the outlet size - although this piece may not so good for shrimps as small ones will escapeThis is upgrade kit #2 This will prevent baby shrimps from escaping. I use both on my breeder boxes and they are certainly an upgrade over the stock parts Ron and Soothing Shrimp 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rodan76 Posted February 23, 2015 Report Share Posted February 23, 2015 do you have a link for these? this is the first upgrade set for the SUDO breeder boxes; basically a mini airstone in the intake side. It definitely smooth out the flow and and the maximum flow, it also includes a replacement grill with larger gaps on the outlet size - although this piece may not so good for shrimps as small ones will escapeThis is upgrade kit #2 This will prevent baby shrimps from escaping. I use both on my breeder boxes and they are certainly an upgrade over the stock parts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ch3fb0yrdee Posted February 23, 2015 Report Share Posted February 23, 2015 They're available on eBay. http://pages.ebay.com/link/?nav=item.view&alt=web&id=251826651915 Used both for a while. The mesh is very good, especially for water pump modders like myself. The larger meshed surface area allow the water outflow to be even and clog less often. Looks to be 9shipped which make it not worth it for folks considering boxes are 13$ for a large. I was selling these a while back when I was in HK and brought a lot back. Very useful but expensive unless directly carried over. Rodan76 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shrimple minded Posted February 23, 2015 Report Share Posted February 23, 2015 They're available on eBay. http://pages.ebay.com/link/?nav=item.view&alt=web&id=251826651915 Used both for a while. The mesh is very good, especially for water pump modders like myself. The larger meshed surface area allow the water outflow to be even and clog less often. Looks to be 9shipped which make it not worth it for folks considering boxes are 13$ for a large. I was selling these a while back when I was in HK and brought a lot back. Very useful but expensive unless directly carried over. Are these kits universally sized? I don't see it specified if these are for small/med/large.........do you know what size breeder box these are for? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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