DETAquarium Posted April 8, 2015 Report Share Posted April 8, 2015 Though this may be an easy topic, I still get corrected by many when attempting to tell the difference. What are the differences between Wine Red, Ruby Red, Red Panda, Ruby Red Dragon, etc? I thought it was the variation of red and if the Taiwan Bee has a panda pattern. If anyone has pictures to help distinguish the differences I think that would be fantastic. Thank you all! Daryl/DETAquarium Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soothing Shrimp Posted April 8, 2015 Report Share Posted April 8, 2015 Still new at TB, but dragon has swirls of black in it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jadenlea Posted April 8, 2015 Report Share Posted April 8, 2015 I need pictures to understand the answer! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ch3fb0yrdee Posted April 8, 2015 Report Share Posted April 8, 2015 Dragon Red Wine: Ruby Red: Red Wine: The Ruby Red could also be considered "dragon" due to the characterized black marbling of its red coverage areas. The Dragon Red Wine photo is probably a better indication of the marbling I mentioned. Shrimp belongs to a buddy. He gave me a few of this Ruby Red/Red Wine that carries the genetics for the Dragon Bloodline. Some folks likes it, some don't. Depends on the keeper I suppose. Personally, I adore the marbling. Elo500, Jonas, svetilda and 1 other 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DETAquarium Posted April 8, 2015 Author Report Share Posted April 8, 2015 Fantastic. Exactly what I wanted to reference Shrimpfan, thank you. So in my experience I always see the term Red Wine, as in the chart I have below. I never see Red Panda, is Red Panda used interchangeably with Red Wine? Meaning the same distinction? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesHe Posted April 8, 2015 Report Share Posted April 8, 2015 Panda is the Wine Red with bands. Wine Red is the generic name of Red Kingkong. Red KK = Wine Red, which includes Ruby Red ( full red coverage), Stripes ( One or Two narrow stripes on back), Panda ( Bands). Hino/No Entry, Mosura. EricM, Cottaball, svetilda and 1 other 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ch3fb0yrdee Posted April 8, 2015 Report Share Posted April 8, 2015 It would seems so. I've also never heard the term Red Panda used for red wines but it could be one of those geographical things. Japanese breeders have Mothra bees but overhere we call them Mosura Blue Taiwan Bee. My assumption is that red wine and red panda are one and the same. There's too many names. Feels like a cool name would fetch a higher resale price. Hence, I opt for looks. Can't play the catchup game with so many brands and names out there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesHe Posted April 8, 2015 Report Share Posted April 8, 2015 It would seems so. I've also never heard the term Red Panda used for red wines but it could be one of those geographical things. Japanese breeders have Mothra bees but overhere we call them Mosura Blue Taiwan Bee. My assumption is that red wine and red panda are one and the same. There's too many names. Feels like a cool name would fetch a higher resale price. Hence, I opt for looks. Can't play the catchup game with so many brands and names out there. Red Panda is only one kind of Wine Red, which has Bands. This is Wine Red Panda: Wine Red One stripe: Wine Red Hinomaru: Wine Red Mosura: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesHe Posted April 8, 2015 Report Share Posted April 8, 2015 for dragon trait, Bryce has the answer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesHe Posted April 8, 2015 Report Share Posted April 8, 2015 Somebody would call extreme, one stripe and two stripes as Ruby Red. Myself only calls extreme as Ruby Red. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DETAquarium Posted April 8, 2015 Author Report Share Posted April 8, 2015 Thank you James. Helps quite a bit. Had many people tell me when I call a shrimp Wine Red, no that's not a Wine Red its a Red Panda..... Ultimately I think everyone is on the same page, just different terminology. EricM, JamesHe and Jonas 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greenteam Posted April 9, 2015 Report Share Posted April 9, 2015 It's seem hard to find a good WR line that produces light reds and not that dark dragon color. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesHe Posted April 9, 2015 Report Share Posted April 9, 2015 It's seem hard to find a good WR line that produces light reds and not that dark dragon color. MK Pao has deep red WR without Dragon swirls. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ch3fb0yrdee Posted April 9, 2015 Report Share Posted April 9, 2015 It's seem hard to find a good WR line that produces light reds and not that dark dragon color. It's because too many NA keep their pandas and red wines together. Red Wine x Pandas is the combination for dragons. Jonas and Elo500 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soothing Shrimp Posted April 9, 2015 Report Share Posted April 9, 2015 I'm seeing more and more dragons vars lately. I'm afraid the plain red will be going extinct soon. mayphly 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greenteam Posted April 9, 2015 Report Share Posted April 9, 2015 I agree they are becoming hard to find. I know when TB's first hit NA it was most cost effective to mix but now we lack true WR. Soothing Shrimp 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ch3fb0yrdee Posted April 9, 2015 Report Share Posted April 9, 2015 Isn't it funny how NA always seek cost effect methods but ultimate lose out on the long term prospects. Similar to the cutting corners methods of mixing Goldens x CRS methods to get better patterns, long term we lost out on coloration. [emoji17] I remember buying my first pair of red wines years ago. They were so beautifully colored and had a really cute dimple like markings on their cheeks. Sadly I was inexperienced with keeping Taiwan Bee at the time and they died. To date, those were the best looking Red Wines I owned. That's why my new approach to shrimp keeping is patiences and dedication. Doing it slow but right, rather than cutting corners and regretting it later on. wot_fan and Jonas 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soothing Shrimp Posted April 14, 2015 Report Share Posted April 14, 2015 Hey Daryl, found this in a google search for something else. Thought it may help you out? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DETAquarium Posted April 14, 2015 Author Report Share Posted April 14, 2015 Perfect! Plan and simple. Thank you, I wonder why they left shadow pandas off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soothing Shrimp Posted April 14, 2015 Report Share Posted April 14, 2015 I think shadows may be considered variation on a theme. heh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fábio Silva Posted April 15, 2015 Report Share Posted April 15, 2015 too much game of thrones Darker red shadows is normal, not stable mutation, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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