Soothing Shrimp Posted May 30, 2014 Report Share Posted May 30, 2014 http://shrimpkeeping.com/controversial-neocaridina/ h4n 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OblongShrimp Posted May 30, 2014 Report Share Posted May 30, 2014 I saw that too! Thanks for sharing it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wicca32 Posted May 30, 2014 Report Share Posted May 30, 2014 very interesting for sure Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pika Posted May 31, 2014 Report Share Posted May 31, 2014 +1 huh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sbarbee54 Posted July 13, 2014 Report Share Posted July 13, 2014 Yeah c sky has also been exporting shrimp with that nasty fungus like crazy too. I have heard many complaints on international forums Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soothing Shrimp Posted July 13, 2014 Author Report Share Posted July 13, 2014 Yikes. That green spikey stuff scares me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sbarbee54 Posted July 13, 2014 Report Share Posted July 13, 2014 Yeah it is nasty and have yet to hear a good cure Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
countryboy12484 Posted July 13, 2014 Report Share Posted July 13, 2014 I want some bloody marys but ive been hearing allot of bad things about them so.... yeah im gonna waite a while Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sbarbee54 Posted July 13, 2014 Report Share Posted July 13, 2014 Well I have yet to hear of any one have any that breed true Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subtletanks91 Posted July 13, 2014 Report Share Posted July 13, 2014 This is all very interesting info. Good thing I don't keep neos anymore there seems to be a lot of problems with some of the new pop ups lately. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Puddles Posted July 14, 2014 Report Share Posted July 14, 2014 Neos as a whole seem fine. Just seems that some breeders are trying to push new colors so hard the shrimps' health gets left behind. countryboy12484 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soothing Shrimp Posted July 14, 2014 Author Report Share Posted July 14, 2014 This has been done for years though. Look at some other forms of shrimp that have been bred so much without concern for hardiness that their immune system is shot. I agree with Puddles though, the drive to put out shrimp before breeding true is just aggravating to say the least. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
countryboy12484 Posted July 14, 2014 Report Share Posted July 14, 2014 Yeah especially when your paying like $100 for 5 shrimp... Soothing Shrimp 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soothing Shrimp Posted July 14, 2014 Author Report Share Posted July 14, 2014 ... or more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
British Reds Posted September 8, 2014 Report Share Posted September 8, 2014 The problem is not in the breeding, its the way they are kept. Asian Neocaridina farms keep the shrimp in unfiltered ponds outside and for some reason the shrimp seem to thrive. However, these ponds are full of fungal infections and shrimp are handled poorly when picking and packing, the result is high death rate when they are added to aquariums. The green (or sometimes yellow) fungas is actually a parasite that feeds off of algae spores, its actually harmless to shrimp. If you completely black out the aquarium for 4-5 days the parasite will starve and fall off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soothing Shrimp Posted September 8, 2014 Author Report Share Posted September 8, 2014 That's the first I've heard of using blackout for the parasite. Interesting! Have you tried this yourself? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subtletanks91 Posted September 8, 2014 Report Share Posted September 8, 2014 That makes sense for the blackout to treat that type of parasite. Since they feed on algae spores, a blackout would kill the algae, this killing the food source for the parasite and then killing the parasite, interesting theory Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sbarbee54 Posted September 9, 2014 Report Share Posted September 9, 2014 But then why do they not die in transit when they come from over seas. It takes 3-5 days and then Some some times. As well I had neos I got from a not so great importer located in OH, that sat in the box for 6 days no light and boy were they infested Soothing Shrimp 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sbarbee54 Posted September 9, 2014 Report Share Posted September 9, 2014 Not only that it ended up spreading to others and they all ended up being wiped out Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
British Reds Posted September 9, 2014 Report Share Posted September 9, 2014 Clean water plays a big role also, so sat in a bag or dirty water for a few days won't help. This is only a theory and one i have tried a few times. My quarantine tank had an algae issue so i blacked it out for a few days, to my surprise the parasite had also disappeared when i finally had a look on the tank. I have tried this a few times since and had similar results, although the length of time does seem to vary from tank to tank. It could just be coincidence, the parasite could be dying off where it is now in clean water which it is not used to. However, the parasite only seems to die off when blacked out and in clean living conditions. The exact science behind the theory i don't know, but i do know the black out has worked for me every time i have tried it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
randy Posted September 9, 2014 Report Share Posted September 9, 2014 Importing shrimps from Asia to North America doesn't take 3 days, unless you go the EMS route. For all the issues tagged on these Neos, I invested 3x15G tank, added about 100 freshly imported Orange Rili/Bloody Mary/Dream Blue and do not sell any of these. I want to prove the "breed true" theory. There are many hobbyists in Canada claim BM breeds true, in my experience, almost all offspring are red but due to frequent imports I can't guarantee that tank houses only BM, thus this experiment. As an importer, I can tell you, Neocaridina gives me at least 10 times more headache than Caridina. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soothing Shrimp Posted September 9, 2014 Author Report Share Posted September 9, 2014 Some bm turned brownish in my tank. Not sure why. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
British Reds Posted September 10, 2014 Report Share Posted September 10, 2014 The dream blue do not breed true. I have had red, blacks, chocolate and blues out of them. BM do as far as i am aware. I do not breed them but import large quantities. Many arrive berried and i have not noticed anything other than red babies in the tanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soothing Shrimp Posted September 10, 2014 Author Report Share Posted September 10, 2014 British Red, in my opinion, my BM have not bred true. In your opinion, what do you consider to be Bloody Mary? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
British Reds Posted September 10, 2014 Report Share Posted September 10, 2014 British Red, in my opinion, my BM have not bred true. In your opinion, what do you consider to be Bloody Mary? Talk about opening a can of worms!! To me a bloody Mary is a red neocaridina that has been bred from Chocolate neocaridina, like the dream blue/fantasy blue. They are easy to spot as the red shade is completely different from other red neocaridina. On others reds such as Cherry, Painted Red etc the red colouring comes from the red chromataphores. With Bloody Mary it seems they have a red cuticle instead of chromataphores. Rostrum size has nothing to do with it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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