Subtletanks91 Posted July 4, 2014 Report Share Posted July 4, 2014 So I've been trying to source vitamins and I found a reptile multi vitamin. I was wondering if you could use this to combine in fish food DIY to give them the vitamins minerals and amino acids they need Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duff0712 Posted July 4, 2014 Report Share Posted July 4, 2014 That's an interesting idea. Curious to know the answer as well. I've been trying to get into DIY food as well and one thing I was thinking about using was Icelandic Ocean Kelp. Supposed to have a large supply of vitamins and minerals. Possibly something to look into? (The specific kelp I know of is the "Life Line Icelandic Ocean Kelp".) I haven't even began to make or test food yet, but might be something to look into. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subtletanks91 Posted July 4, 2014 Author Report Share Posted July 4, 2014 I'm staying away from all starches plants and sugars. If I can help it thwre won't be any in this food. No carbs either. Unless its absolutely necessary for binding it it won't be in thwre. I'm having trouble sourcing probiotuca and algae bred for aquaculture meaning bred in labs for higher fat content. And protein Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duff0712 Posted July 4, 2014 Report Share Posted July 4, 2014 Ahh ok. I can understand staying away from starch and sugars, but I'm curious on why you are staying away from plants? -Duffy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subtletanks91 Posted July 4, 2014 Author Report Share Posted July 4, 2014 Plants are made up of mostly sugars and carbs. Fish can't utilize those, and they can't digest them, so they put off more waste. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subtletanks91 Posted July 4, 2014 Author Report Share Posted July 4, 2014 It's all in the two videos I posted in Bryce's thread "best fish food" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duff0712 Posted July 4, 2014 Report Share Posted July 4, 2014 Hmm interesting I'll give it a look thanks! -Duffy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subtletanks91 Posted July 4, 2014 Author Report Share Posted July 4, 2014 Anytime. I trust Marc in his video over les Wilson. Just because he is basically the god father of discus, and a well known and respected man in aquaria. Les Wilson used to work for marineland. And branched off to make cobalt aquatics which I just recently got there food. Pretty good although I disagree with some stuff he told me. Oh well we all have opinions. Anyways watch those videos and come back to this thread. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subtletanks91 Posted July 4, 2014 Author Report Share Posted July 4, 2014 I found a source for vit, min, yeast and krill meal. Now to find shrimp meal fish meal and wheat gluten, or other cold binder to dry out the paste Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duff0712 Posted July 4, 2014 Report Share Posted July 4, 2014 If you don't mind sharing your sources I would love to know them. Also just finished watching both videos and the information was wonderful. I just got hit with a informational bomb haha. I definitely have a different view on making the food along with the process! Need to find some probiotics as well. -Duffy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duff0712 Posted July 4, 2014 Report Share Posted July 4, 2014 What do you think about using http://www.amazon.com/NATURVET-978047-Enzymes-Probiotics-8-Ounce/dp/B001F2GDJ4/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1404464396&sr=8-2&keywords=naturvet as a probiotic source? I can get it easily at my work (same as the lifeline) which is why I was asking about that earlier. Also, I SO didn't realize this was in the fish section of the forums hahaha. I am sure the information still holds valid in shrimp keeping, but what do you think about what Marc was saying if it was directed towards shrimp? (Sorry for the off-topicness) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subtletanks91 Posted July 4, 2014 Author Report Share Posted July 4, 2014 To be honest I didn't notice it being directed towards shrimp or him mentioning it I'll have to watch it again lol. For probiotics I was actually thinking of using beta glucan, and yeast for aquaculture that is inactive. Here is a good red on the use and scientific research on probiotics as well as specific strains. http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S2090123213001483 Tons of ingredients here http://florida-aqua-farms.com Wheat gluten http://www.nuts.com/cookingbaking/grains/wheat/gluten.html?utm_source=google&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=pla&gclid=COvZm4v5qr8CFUlqfgodiGEANQ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subtletanks91 Posted July 4, 2014 Author Report Share Posted July 4, 2014 Here is another good read on probiotics http://www.hindawi.com/journals/isrn.microbiology/2012/916845/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duff0712 Posted July 4, 2014 Report Share Posted July 4, 2014 Sweet I'll have a look at them once I get back from work today. -Duffy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subtletanks91 Posted July 4, 2014 Author Report Share Posted July 4, 2014 Work on the 4th?? Haha I guess I was lucky to get it off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duff0712 Posted July 4, 2014 Report Share Posted July 4, 2014 Yeah... Retail is fun -Duffy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subtletanks91 Posted July 4, 2014 Author Report Share Posted July 4, 2014 I work retail to lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duff0712 Posted July 4, 2014 Report Share Posted July 4, 2014 Ok then you're lucky haha -Duffy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subtletanks91 Posted July 4, 2014 Author Report Share Posted July 4, 2014 I'm actually going to be switching jobs soon so I'll be working night time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subtletanks91 Posted July 5, 2014 Author Report Share Posted July 5, 2014 http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=rXQS95MHmTk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duff0712 Posted July 5, 2014 Report Share Posted July 5, 2014 Great video. I especially like him going over the different color enhancers. -Duffy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duff0712 Posted July 5, 2014 Report Share Posted July 5, 2014 Oh and good luck on the job switch! -Duffy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subtletanks91 Posted July 5, 2014 Author Report Share Posted July 5, 2014 Yeah the different color enhancers is great to know because you can make food for specific fish. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duff0712 Posted July 6, 2014 Report Share Posted July 6, 2014 Think you could do the same or shrimp? Like paprika for pumpkins or spirulina for blue tiger? That'd be awesome haha -Duffy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subtletanks91 Posted July 6, 2014 Author Report Share Posted July 6, 2014 I would stay away from astaxanthin and spirulina in neos. Bryce warned me about those two things causing them to have some unwanted color changea Soothing Shrimp 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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