r45t4m4n Posted August 15, 2014 Report Share Posted August 15, 2014 I'm in the planning phase of setting up a breeding rack. I have been keeping shrimp in my planted tank with a canister filter. I have read that a sponge filter in conjunction with a under gravel filter is the way to go with shrimp breeding. I've seen the plate style (jigsaw) and the DIY version (pipe with slits). 1. Which version do you recommend? While I am handy, I rather buy a quality setup than rig something up on my own. 2. How do you setup the UGF? How is it connected with the sponge filter? Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesHe Posted August 15, 2014 Report Share Posted August 15, 2014 I don't use UGF for my CRS tank. It's not necessary at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
r45t4m4n Posted August 15, 2014 Author Report Share Posted August 15, 2014 It does seem overly complicating things. Thoughts on a hamburg matten filter? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chibikaie Posted August 15, 2014 Report Share Posted August 15, 2014 Hmf all the way, for everything! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
High5's Posted August 15, 2014 Report Share Posted August 15, 2014 I used a jigsaw ugf with the tank I just set up. Here is a link http://www.shrimpspot.com/index.php?/topic/874-tibee-rack/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesHe Posted August 15, 2014 Report Share Posted August 15, 2014 It does seem overly complicating things. Thoughts on a hamburg matten filter? Yes, it should work, I use the sponge filter from Angelfish plus, or swisstropicals. I haven't tried the corner filter yet. but it's cool idea. My new tank in cycling, it has 4.25" round sponge filter. same material as HMF. Fuman 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greenteam Posted August 15, 2014 Report Share Posted August 15, 2014 UGF + Sponge Filter = easy mode. I have a tank with just that and works like a champ. They each are their own component so its not like they are somehow connected. I just setup DIY UGF that has seacham matrix covering the inlet holes I drilled, and a standard sponge filter running on the other side of tank. High5's 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ctaylor3737 Posted August 17, 2014 Report Share Posted August 17, 2014 Depends on your needs, personally I find ugh makes the water very clear and doesn't require an expensive canisters. High5's 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poormanisme Posted August 17, 2014 Report Share Posted August 17, 2014 I made a ugf with pvc then added seachem matrix all around it, covered it with amazonia then connected to my cannister and its workes great so far. This is on my PRL tank and lots of babies and no worries about them gettiing sucked into anything. Water is perfectly clear. Only time will tell how long this works, or if it reduces the buffering of the amazonia. The ugf is only under about a third of the substrate. One all my other tanks just sponge filters. That works fine too. High5's 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greenteam Posted August 18, 2014 Report Share Posted August 18, 2014 I have a buddy who setup a whole rack with UGF + Aquaclear connected to it. From his personal experience he did notice quicker loss in buffering capability of ADA substrate. The exact amount I can't say, but he said it was noticeable. Now he still uses UGF but with just standard airstone setup. He said it made the buffering last much longer this way. High5's 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EricM Posted September 1, 2014 Report Share Posted September 1, 2014 UGFs all the way, but you cant blame soil buffering expiring faster on UGF. if you are using RO it doesnt matter then. I'm working on a new sulawesi setup its a tank with an HMF and UGF setup. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc4PC2 Posted September 1, 2014 Report Share Posted September 1, 2014 Yeah, I've got to say the HMF are great. They really give you such a large area for bacteria, and the fry especially love to hang out on it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subtletanks91 Posted September 2, 2014 Report Share Posted September 2, 2014 I'm working on a new set up using an ugf with a finnex 360 cannister alone. Getting rid of sponge and my c3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Posted September 3, 2014 Report Share Posted September 3, 2014 My new set up will have an Eheim UGF which will run into an Eheim 2075 Pro 3 that with some Mech and filter floss, it will only be a pre-filter. It will then go into an Eheim 2076 Pro 3e full of biomedia. Just using up equipment I have lying around. ctaylor3737 and h4n 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
High5's Posted September 5, 2014 Report Share Posted September 5, 2014 I really like my air driven ugf the tank is super clear, I may add a hob for extra filtration down the road. EricM and ANBU 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ctaylor3737 Posted September 6, 2014 Report Share Posted September 6, 2014 My new set up will have an Eheim UGF which will run into an Eheim 2075 Pro 3 that with some Mech and filter floss, it will only be a pre-filter. It will then go into an Eheim 2076 Pro 3e full of biomedia. Just using up equipment I have lying around.Lol big filters to be." Lying around" I want one, I have them on discus tanks and Angel breeders. Love the eheim ones, rarely have to touch mine and flow never gets bad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Posted September 6, 2014 Report Share Posted September 6, 2014 Lol big filters to be." Lying around" I want one, I have them on discus tanks and Angel breeders. Love the eheim ones, rarely have to touch mine and flow never gets bad. Yeah I'm a bit of a hoarder when I see a deal. I am also shutting down a few midsize tanks that I over filter with big Eheims. I just checked my inventory on the shelf and I have a 2213, 2215, 2075 Pro 3, 2078 Pro 3e and soon I'll have a 2262. Imagine the shrimpnado I could create with the 2262. My name is Ron and Eheimaholic....LOL Fisch 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EricM Posted September 6, 2014 Report Share Posted September 6, 2014 I really like my air driven ugf the tank is super clear, I may add a hob for extra filtration down the road. ugfs.png looks great! love the simplicity of tanks like this. High5's 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
High5's Posted September 7, 2014 Report Share Posted September 7, 2014 looks great! love the simplicity of tanks like this.Thanks bostoneric! It's not the prettiest thing to look at but it will be rock solid stable once it's done cycling . EricM 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fisch Posted October 30, 2014 Report Share Posted October 30, 2014 Right now I have tanks set up with: sponge filters, HMF, aquaclear - UGF, HOB, and canister. I really like the ability to use biomaterial (Substrat) with the UGF, HOB, and canister filtration. I also like the canister filtration with my sulawesi setup, which allows me to get great filtration and not have to mess in the tank too much. EricM 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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