TheGardenofEder Posted February 3, 2015 Report Share Posted February 3, 2015 What is the best way to seed a tank, can I just take a scraper scrape some off and drop it in the new tank? I'm also useing Bacter ae I just think scrape some off a tank that's already start to jump start things Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OMG Aquatics Posted February 3, 2015 Report Share Posted February 3, 2015 I heard of seeding bb but seeding biofilm? o.o Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGardenofEder Posted February 3, 2015 Author Report Share Posted February 3, 2015 Seeding bb? What's bb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OMG Aquatics Posted February 3, 2015 Report Share Posted February 3, 2015 beneficial bacteria Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyeGuy411 Posted February 3, 2015 Report Share Posted February 3, 2015 Bacter AE will give you all the bio film you need if you dose it into a cycling tank. I did that with a 10g im just finishing cycling, dosed bacter every other day for the first week and set the heat at 80. Just over two weeks in and the BB are all colonized and now theres a nice clearish slime on everything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGardenofEder Posted February 3, 2015 Author Report Share Posted February 3, 2015 Oh right, but anyone got any input on that maybe I should try it. Also is this bio film it looks different from my other tanks it's from my krib chiclid tank Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OMG Aquatics Posted February 3, 2015 Report Share Posted February 3, 2015 That's algae. Biofilm is not visible by just tooking at your tank. You'll need a scope to see biofilm. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGardenofEder Posted February 3, 2015 Author Report Share Posted February 3, 2015 Does the bio film not live on the algee? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OMG Aquatics Posted February 3, 2015 Report Share Posted February 3, 2015 idk about that but if your dosing bacter AE, you have nothing to worry about when it comes to biofilm. How much shrimp is in your tank? For a 10g tank with 20 shrimps, you only need to dose bacter AE maybe once every 1-3 weeks. If you see the shrimps picking on stuff, there's biofilm for them. If they aren't, chances are biofilm is low. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGardenofEder Posted February 3, 2015 Author Report Share Posted February 3, 2015 No shrimp in tank atm, they will be here next week I'm just geting things ready Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGardenofEder Posted February 3, 2015 Author Report Share Posted February 3, 2015 So when you see that green stuff on then sides of all the tanks say at lowkeys, that's not bio film? If it's algee why is it there it don't look good and it's in a store. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyeGuy411 Posted February 3, 2015 Report Share Posted February 3, 2015 Green is not biofilm. Biofilm is clear or whitish if you can see it. Biofilm can live on algae but there is no reason to grow algae on purpose in my opinion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGardenofEder Posted February 3, 2015 Author Report Share Posted February 3, 2015 Then why does lowkeys tanks all have green algee on the sides of all their tanks? There is so much contradicting info on the web. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyeGuy411 Posted February 3, 2015 Report Share Posted February 3, 2015 I have heard breeders grow algae more because of the hands off approach. It doesnt matter what the breeding tank looks like as long as they are producing healthy shrimp. I hear it also along the lines of shrimp dont like change. I personally hate the look of algae and always keep my glass clean, there are plenty of other surfaces in the tank that grow biofilm for the shrimp to graze on. I have'nt fed my tank in about three weeks because of the thick almost jelly like coating on surfaces from the Bacter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazyfishlady Posted February 3, 2015 Report Share Posted February 3, 2015 I am only learning about things like the AE product and I have never tried the scraping method. I do however, put extra things in an established tank if I am planning on setting up a new one. Then I pull out those things and put them in the new one to help. "Things" would be - filter media (including sponges) extra rocks and wood. I also use http://www.petsmart.com/fish/water-care-conditioning/top-fin-bacteria-supplement-aquarium-cycling-water-conditioner-zid36-17717/cat-36-catid-300006?var_id=36-17717&_t=pfm%3Dcategory just because someone gave it to me. I put the extras in the established tank to get the "slime" as I call it - that's my fancy term Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGardenofEder Posted February 3, 2015 Author Report Share Posted February 3, 2015 I already have a piece of drift wood and like 10 pieces of cholla wood and some alder Cones as well as the sponge filter in another tank. Crazyfishlady 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soothing Shrimp Posted February 4, 2015 Report Share Posted February 4, 2015 Algae actually produces a byproduct that the shrimp eat as food. So while the shrimp don't eat the algae itself, they do eat the food teh algae produces. However, some like clean glass and that is okay, too. Other foods are available. Then why does lowkeys tanks all have green algee on the sides of all their tanks? There is so much contradicting info on the web. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGardenofEder Posted February 4, 2015 Author Report Share Posted February 4, 2015 I thought that byproduct was bio film Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soothing Shrimp Posted February 4, 2015 Report Share Posted February 4, 2015 My understanding is that bacteria live off proteins on the glass, and the combination is biofilm. Not sure what food algae produces...what a great question! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGardenofEder Posted February 4, 2015 Author Report Share Posted February 4, 2015 do you keep algee on your tanks? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soothing Shrimp Posted February 4, 2015 Report Share Posted February 4, 2015 When algae grows on the three glass walls other than the front panel, I keep it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGardenofEder Posted February 4, 2015 Author Report Share Posted February 4, 2015 That's exactly what I do what do you think about me scraping some off and throwing it into the tank I'm going to put your chocolates in? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soothing Shrimp Posted February 4, 2015 Report Share Posted February 4, 2015 Wouldn't hurt if you are trying to mature it faster. Kind of like inoculating I guess. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monty703 Posted February 6, 2015 Report Share Posted February 6, 2015 I keep algae on the 3 walls of my tanks too...shrimps love to pick over it. I have in the past, squeezed out some of the brownish mucky stuff that collects in my filter floss and poured it into a new tank to help jumpstart it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soothing Shrimp Posted February 6, 2015 Report Share Posted February 6, 2015 Called mulm bombing, and it is very effective. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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