ShrimpSA Posted October 26, 2015 Report Share Posted October 26, 2015 Good day, I am from South Africa. Here it is a grey area to keep shrimps. You are not allowed to trade or sell shrimps but there is no law stating that you can't keep them. I managed to get myself some shrimps but because of the laws it is hard to find people that know shrimp as not many people here have them. I bought 10, 5 have saddles which as far I understand are definite females, 2 more look like females and 3 are males. I haven't bred them yet so I can ''cancel out'' some species as I do not know if they have a larvae stage or not. I first heard that they are ghost shrimp, but they do not have those prominent humps on their backs like ghost shrips(well at least the pictures I can find online. I then though they might be Neocaridina heteropoda "wild" but I am still not 100% sure. I have only had them for a few days now. Attached are a few pics I took when I just got them and right after I put them in their tank. Also as can be seen the one in the glass container has a light yellow color but it its still transparent like the others. If I could have your inputs it will be greatly appreciated. If any other pics are required I will gladly take some more. Thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soothing Shrimp Posted October 26, 2015 Report Share Posted October 26, 2015 Hard to tell for sure, but offhand they look like neos. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DETAquarium Posted October 26, 2015 Report Share Posted October 26, 2015 They are definitely not Ghost shrimp, but outside of that it is hard to know 100% sure what they are. If they are a Neo, they definitely are a "Wild" strain. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShrimpSA Posted October 26, 2015 Author Report Share Posted October 26, 2015 How would I go about identifying them? I want to get some red cherries but I first want to know what these are so that I do not interbreed... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShrimpSA Posted October 26, 2015 Author Report Share Posted October 26, 2015 Are those images clear enough or would it help to take new ones and post? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Citycode01 Posted October 26, 2015 Report Share Posted October 26, 2015 They look like low quality red/yellow neo shrimps, maybe few even wild (like brown ish colour) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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ShrimpSA Posted October 26, 2015 Author Report Share Posted October 26, 2015 So can we say with 100% certainty that they are all Neo? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShrimpSA Posted October 26, 2015 Author Report Share Posted October 26, 2015 I assume then I can't add cherry shrimp as they will interbreed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Purplepanda Posted October 26, 2015 Report Share Posted October 26, 2015 Surely neos, either close to a wild strain or possibly low quality yellows, breed them out and get some more clues. I have to ask, if your police force is non existent how do they control shrimp ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShrimpSA Posted October 27, 2015 Author Report Share Posted October 27, 2015 Haha our poloce force isn't non existent. They are here buy busy with n other stuff. The people who try control exotic animals are our so called "NatCon". But they are trying to enforce other laws regarding to exotic snakes and tarantulas. So their focus isn't on the shrimps. So their hands are full because the exotic hobbyists are not happy at all. An update. One shrimp died last night but two other shed.I hope that they will settle in now. I will update as soon as they breed. At least I have quite a few that have saddles. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShrimpSA Posted October 27, 2015 Author Report Share Posted October 27, 2015 Okay so I got home and found a female that just got her eggs.... Sent from my GT-I9300 using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maurice Posted October 27, 2015 Report Share Posted October 27, 2015 Hi ShrimpSA They do look like lower grade yellow neos Where in SA are you from and where did you buy them? Permits have been issued to import shrimp to South Africa, but only to the Western Cape as far as I know Look here http://smartshrimp.co.za Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soothing Shrimp Posted October 27, 2015 Report Share Posted October 27, 2015 The eggs confirm it is a high order shrimp. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotKelly Posted October 27, 2015 Report Share Posted October 27, 2015 a ghost shrimp would have green eggs. looks like a neo to me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShrimpSA Posted October 27, 2015 Author Report Share Posted October 27, 2015 Are the eggs a green color from the start? Sent from my GT-I9300 using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShrimpSA Posted October 27, 2015 Author Report Share Posted October 27, 2015 Also some people here think that they are cross bred already and not a pure line anymore? And the one male is a very very light blue color... Sent from my GT-I9300 using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShrimpSA Posted October 27, 2015 Author Report Share Posted October 27, 2015 Maurice, I am not aware of that. The petshops in Gauteng don't stock because they say its illegal. Also one petshop does have but they won't sell them because they say its illegal. But I will look at the site later. If its legal now I will be very happy. I will contact the people on the site and ask them what is going on. Our laws also sometimes differ from province to province. Sent from my GT-I9300 using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShrimpSA Posted October 28, 2015 Author Report Share Posted October 28, 2015 Okay so here is another update. This one female's eggs are a greenish color? She laid her eggs last night. I am very confused at the moment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Citycode01 Posted October 28, 2015 Report Share Posted October 28, 2015 That's absolutely fine, neos can have green eggs, I haven't seen green eggs on my yellows but I see them on my cherries all the time. I've got similar shrimps colour in my community thank where I dump all culls they all sort of transparent colour with blue, yellow or red tint. Sometime they can still through good colour babies (normally red) so if you do selective birding you might end up with stronger colour shrimps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shrimple minded Posted October 28, 2015 Report Share Posted October 28, 2015 The eggs typically take a while (several weeks) to hatch.......didn't you say she just got berried? First time mothers can drop their eggs prematurely. douglasre69 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShrimpSA Posted October 28, 2015 Author Report Share Posted October 28, 2015 Ah thanks. It makes me feel better... because mine also have slight different colours. Like you will see with the attached pics. The one is a light blue and the other a stronger yellow colour. Sent from my GT-I9300 using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShrimpSA Posted October 28, 2015 Author Report Share Posted October 28, 2015 Also as you guys can see in the picd I got some red cherry shrimps yesterday. They still a bit small so it gives me time to set up another tank for them so they won't breed with the others. Sent from my GT-I9300 using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShrimpSA Posted October 28, 2015 Author Report Share Posted October 28, 2015 The eggs typically take a while (several weeks) to hatch.......didn't you say she just got berried? First time mothers can drop their eggs prematurely. No they have been berried for some time. I got them berried.... three females dropped eggs already. Expecting another female will soon. Some of the other female's saddles are still small so they wont drop for some time.Sent from my GT-I9300 using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sarah Posted October 28, 2015 Report Share Posted October 28, 2015 I think maybe we should clear up some terminology so everyone is on the same page: When these types of shrimps are "saddled", they have eggs in their ovaries. After mating/fertilization, the eggs travel to the swimmerets (pleopods). This is where the female will carry the eggs while they develop for a few weeks (timing depends on species as well as various external factors such as temperature). The female will keep them clean and oxygenated by fanning her pleopods regularly. She does not "lay" the eggs. Once the eggs hatch, they will emerge as free swimming juveniles. There is no planktonic larval stage in this genus - the newly hatched babies look like mini versions of the adults. When people talk about eggs being "dropped", they mean that the female has not managed to hold on to some or all of her eggs for whatever reason (youth/inexperience, disease, stress, poor water conditions, etc.) - she has dropped them, and they will not develop further. Soothing Shrimp, pratiksawai47 and Shrimple minded 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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