countryboy12484 Posted June 2, 2014 Report Share Posted June 2, 2014 Anyone know of some good reads on selective breeding? Derek Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soothing Shrimp Posted June 2, 2014 Report Share Posted June 2, 2014 Best article I know on selectively breeding shrimp is in the B&K #2. The whole mag is well worth the money. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
countryboy12484 Posted June 2, 2014 Author Report Share Posted June 2, 2014 I had wondered about that mag.... was just kinda pricey... im board at work and didnt know if there were any online resources I could occupie my time and learn something. .. Derek Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soothing Shrimp Posted June 2, 2014 Report Share Posted June 2, 2014 Just google selectively breeding shrimp and a bunch of stuff comes up. Lots and lots and lots of ways to do it. Just depends how much you want to "work" and how much you want to relax while doing it. Something I've often wished is that I could "mark" individual shrimp for better knowledge of following genetic lines. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MABJ Posted June 2, 2014 Report Share Posted June 2, 2014 Bryce one way to track shrimp is to take a close up photo of the one you're tracking, print it out on computer paper and then circle it's distinct markings and keep it in a folder near your tank. A lot of work but it's the best way I know how. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
countryboy12484 Posted June 2, 2014 Author Report Share Posted June 2, 2014 Well my idea is.... I want to do 4 10 gallon tanks for selective breeding and 4 to house my main colonys.. nothing fancy just wanting to get my feet wet.... seeing your projects has kinda inspired me lol.... Derek Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
countryboy12484 Posted June 2, 2014 Author Report Share Posted June 2, 2014 4 20s to house the main colonys... Derek Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soothing Shrimp Posted June 2, 2014 Report Share Posted June 2, 2014 A great way to do it that still allows you to relax is to have two tanks per colony. Tank A, and a tank B (or more later on) Tank A will hold your best colored shrimp of that strain, Tank B will be your less colored. Tank A will be your concern for selective breeding. Keep only the best of your trait in there and cull the rest of the babies into Tank B that doesn't match your standard. You will work on your bell curve with Tank A. Here's the trick- DON'T move from Tank B into A again. You can start another tank (A2) if you'd like to work parallel to A. Why? You are slowly gathering the modifiers together into alignment of the trait you want in Tank A. If you move a different tank shrimp into Tank A, it has stuff genetically in the background that you don't want. (The relatives were not bred for your goal.) It sets you back and costs you time. If you keep adding from Tank B, you may never reach your goal. Now the advantage of a Tank A and a Tank A2 (if you decide later), is that if- in time- they are displaying similar desired traits, you can switch out shrimp between the two and you can increase diversity, but it is not a necessity. Clear as mud? LOL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
countryboy12484 Posted June 2, 2014 Author Report Share Posted June 2, 2014 Got it nice to know I have the right idea... and thanks for the tip... when I get my malawa's ide like to do something with those. ... I think its a species that could produce some very interesting morphs. .. I kinda believe sulwasi shrimp could be a chance for American breeders to shine... and I want in on it lol Derek Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soothing Shrimp Posted June 2, 2014 Report Share Posted June 2, 2014 +1 My biggest tip is to selectively breed what interests you, not what you think will sell- or you'll be very disappointed. heh People are fickle, and what's in now is out later. It sounds as if you are interested in furthering interest in certain shrimp by working on varieties. Very noble, and I wish you all the luck! It's not an easy road, but fun just the same! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
countryboy12484 Posted June 2, 2014 Author Report Share Posted June 2, 2014 Oh I dont plan to make money.... I wouldn't mind if my hobby payed for it self though.... i just wanna see if I can do it.... if people like it and wanna buy great but I wanna do it for personal satisfaction.... Derek Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
countryboy12484 Posted June 2, 2014 Author Report Share Posted June 2, 2014 I also have a 1 year old daughter and I hope she takes interest in the hobby... If I woulda gotten into something like this when I was younger maybe I woulda had something to do besides seeing how meany times I could get locked up in a week lol... Derek Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soothing Shrimp Posted June 2, 2014 Report Share Posted June 2, 2014 I hear ya, my friend. Selective breeding can become a very consuming passion. Lots of aspects to it, from application to research. I love it when I can buy a new tank or upgrade something. I'd never be able to make a living from it though. You will make some neat friends, and have fleeting respect- but you nailed it, do it for personal satisfaction and because we all have to help each other. *thumbsup* Shrimpo and ctaylor3737 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ctaylor3737 Posted June 2, 2014 Report Share Posted June 2, 2014 I hear ya, my friend. Selective breeding can become a very consuming passion. Lots of aspects to it, from application to research. I love it when I can buy a new tank or upgrade something. I'd never be able to make a living from it though. You will make some neat friends, and have fleeting respect- but you nailed it, do it for personal satisfaction and because we all have to help each other. *thumbsup* Yea hard to make a living doing it. It I'll help pay for upgrades or new shrimp. Just gotta save up from sales! Keeps the lady from getting angry. -Chris Soothing Shrimp 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soothing Shrimp Posted June 2, 2014 Report Share Posted June 2, 2014 +1 That's about the only way I can afford the upkeep. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
00camaro16 Posted June 2, 2014 Report Share Posted June 2, 2014 I'm always just glad when a hobby pays for itself. My main hobby is car modification and I will paint/airbrush or detail other people's cars just to use that money towards my own. It isn't that I need to do it to afford the hobby, but I enjoy painting, and detailing is almost just as relaxing as fishing for me. I enjoy detailing and it's nice that it pays for something else I enjoy... Or... I am also going to start making custom fly and spinning rods to support my fishing pole lust. If I had to give up all hobbies but one, fly fishing would be the one I kept. If I could get to the point of buying my rod for "free" it would be awesome. Chris Sent from my SM-N900V using Tapatalk ctaylor3737 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ctaylor3737 Posted June 2, 2014 Report Share Posted June 2, 2014 I'm always just glad when a hobby pays for itself. My main hobby is car modification and I will paint/airbrush or detail other people's cars just to use that money towards my own. It isn't that I need to do it to afford the hobby, but I enjoy painting, and detailing is almost just as relaxing as fishing for me. I enjoy detailing and it's nice that it pays for something else I enjoy...Or...I am also going to start making custom fly and spinning rods to support my fishing pole lust. If I had to give up all hobbies but one, fly fishing would be the one I kept. If I could get to the point of buying my rod for "free" it would be awesome.ChrisSent from my SM-N900V using Tapatalk I used to paint cars for about 10 years. Loved doing it but had someone rob my whole tool box. Could never afford to buy them all again, switched jobs and haven't done it in years. Would love to get back into it again. -Chris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
countryboy12484 Posted June 2, 2014 Author Report Share Posted June 2, 2014 See I wish I could do my job as a hobby... and make a living at something else.....I love machining I can honestly say ive made things that are in outer space... but the stress and pay sucks lol Derek ctaylor3737 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metageologist Posted June 3, 2014 Report Share Posted June 3, 2014 .I am also going to start making custom fly and spinning rods to support my fishing pole lust. If I had to give up all hobbies but one, fly fishing would be the one I kept. If I could get to the point of buying my rod for "free" it would be awesome.ChrisSent from my SM-N900V using Tapatalk If your ever out in northern NY be sure to bring your fly rod we have some of the best salmon fishing in the world. Every year the next town over gets inundated with fly fishers from around the world fishing for salmon. Have a gniess day. -Scott Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shrimpo Posted June 3, 2014 Report Share Posted June 3, 2014 I think Sulawesi creatures have saltwater genetics background, I believe the lakes of Sulawesi were part of the ocean then got isolated overtime and became high PH lakes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soothing Shrimp Posted June 3, 2014 Report Share Posted June 3, 2014 Interesting info. Shows how adaption can take place over time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
00camaro16 Posted June 3, 2014 Report Share Posted June 3, 2014 If your ever out in northern NY be sure to bring your fly rod we have some of the best salmon fishing in the world. Every year the next town over gets inundated with fly fishers from around the world fishing for salmon. Have a gniess day. -Scott That does sound nice. I tend to be more of a trout fisher, and am lucky to live only about 2 hours away from the Ausable, one of the best trout rivers in the world. Chris Sent from my SM-N900V using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
countryboy12484 Posted June 3, 2014 Author Report Share Posted June 3, 2014 Im a huge trout fisherman or I was before I had my daughter lol... I actually baught her a rod for her 1st birthday.... ill get back out on the streams one day... Derek Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soothing Shrimp Posted June 3, 2014 Report Share Posted June 3, 2014 Speedie is an avid fisherman with his own boat. I'm surprised he hasn't joined in yet. SpeedieAquatics 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metageologist Posted June 3, 2014 Report Share Posted June 3, 2014 That does sound nice. I tend to be more of a trout fisher, and am lucky to live only about 2 hours away from the Ausable, one of the best trout rivers in the world. Chris Sent from my SM-N900V using Tapatalk Very nice. I used to enjoy trout fishing along the west and east branch of the Delaware river, in the area of deposit NY. Now I have a salmon and trout creek about 500 yes from my front door that no body but a few locals fish because it's so hard to get to. Have a gniess day. -Scott Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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