Subtletanks91 Posted June 30, 2014 Report Share Posted June 30, 2014 We all know goldens start off with either orange red pink flesh tone and gain white as they mature. But is it possible for crystal reds to gain the trait as well. I have several crystals that have an orange underlying flesh. And in wondering if ita from my psuedo tib breeding with my mischling crystal reds. if it is the case and it is recessive I may want to breed to create an orange strain of crystal bee shrimp. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soothing Shrimp Posted June 30, 2014 Report Share Posted June 30, 2014 You may want to show a pic to explain what you are talking about to others. BTW, pseudo TiB is what subtle and I have been referring to as TT x Crystal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subtletanks91 Posted July 1, 2014 Author Report Share Posted July 1, 2014 Umm take a few pics when I get home. I'm currently at work. but what do you think Bryce your more of a genetic talks person. I have a few psuedo that look like tt but are definite tib Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soothing Shrimp Posted July 1, 2014 Report Share Posted July 1, 2014 I know DKShrimporium was breeding papaya crystal shrimp for awhile. You may want to write her for pictures, and see if it looks like yours....and ask if you can show her pictures to our forum as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wicca32 Posted July 1, 2014 Report Share Posted July 1, 2014 thats what i was going to say, DK had orange crs, i think she not only had the papaya but ones she called cheeto Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subtletanks91 Posted July 1, 2014 Author Report Share Posted July 1, 2014 This is the only photo I have right now. But you can tell the flesh is orange because the white even has an orange tint to it not just the red being lighter. I may just do that and pm her after I make this post. I think it would be interesting as there are non on the market right now. But do you think this is a recessive trait? Or is this a dominant trait. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soothing Shrimp Posted July 1, 2014 Report Share Posted July 1, 2014 trick question without you realizing it. If it was simple dominant it wouldn't pop up because your entire colony would be recessive for clear. HOWEVER, having said that- I can only speak from Neo experience since that is what I've concentrated on selectively breeding- color is MUCH harder to breed out, than breed IN. IN other words, if you choose to try your hand at selectively breeding these, you should have a much "easier" time making the color pop up. Even if co-dominant and it takes over color attributes, you are still going to have a good go at this. The first step is to breed more of these. 2nd step is to breed for color intensity. If in the f2 you have a non-lethal homozygous expression, your color should be able to breed true and intensity improved rather rapidly with good selection! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subtletanks91 Posted July 1, 2014 Author Report Share Posted July 1, 2014 All I got from that was if more pop up breed them for color and then line breed them haha. It's been a long time since I took biology, I know the words but forgot the meanings haha, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soothing Shrimp Posted July 1, 2014 Report Share Posted July 1, 2014 Close enough. LOL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subtletanks91 Posted July 1, 2014 Author Report Share Posted July 1, 2014 Lol. I wish I had room for a second tank. This is I ratting working with one tank. I have so many things I want to do!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subtletanks91 Posted July 1, 2014 Author Report Share Posted July 1, 2014 Is done search after search, orange crs, crs mutation, crystal orange shrimp etc etc. nothing has come up under the images that has an orange undertone to the flesh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wicca32 Posted July 1, 2014 Report Share Posted July 1, 2014 this is one of DK's papaya crystal's http://www.plantedtank.net/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=198738&stc=1&d=1377514944 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wicca32 Posted July 1, 2014 Report Share Posted July 1, 2014 maybe its my computer but i dont really see the orange in the pic on that shrimp you posted. but my laptop is not known for have the best color lol. you might end up with goldens out of it later on though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subtletanks91 Posted July 1, 2014 Author Report Share Posted July 1, 2014 Dk shrimp looks like the one I thought was red bolt. it could be the lighting or my phones camera not giving true tone. but that shrimp has an orange flesh. The red is more orange and fades the white is orange with opache white. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sbarbee54 Posted July 11, 2014 Report Share Posted July 11, 2014 Your shrimp in the pic is to young to have its full color developed. It will darken for sure as it gets older and should look like a normal crs. I wish I had a better video recorder I would record my 48.8 tb tank and show everyone what all kinds of different crs and CBS snow whites golden and all types of tb babies looked like. Most people look at color to soon, they need to get to juvi stage or even sub adult sometimes before the colors show really Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subtletanks91 Posted July 11, 2014 Author Report Share Posted July 11, 2014 This shrimp has not changed color since a peewee. At its size now it's a juvinile and shows no sign of changing or darkening color. And he is not the only on in the tank this way. The depth of field on my macro shots isn't very good, though I do agree he looks fairly small in this photo he is actually around 3/4-1" in size. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sbarbee54 Posted July 12, 2014 Report Share Posted July 12, 2014 That means that piece of moss is huge and that is one heck of a piece of snow flake food. I would say maybe a 1/4 and just hitting peewee stage so color will start to deepen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subtletanks91 Posted July 12, 2014 Author Report Share Posted July 12, 2014 Sorry I should have clarified better. He is now 3/4-1" and same color. Not my best days with sentence structures now days. I'll try to grab some photos Sunday to show him better and the others. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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