edishrimp Posted December 5, 2015 Report Share Posted December 5, 2015 Hey guys, It's been a long time since I've cycled a tank proper and it was for fish (which are probably a thousand times more resilient than shrimp) so I'm not sure what to expect from my tank. The current water parameters are as follows: Ammonia: 0.25ppm Nitrite: 0 Nitrate:30ppm pH: 6.4 Currently housing 2 tetras and a bristlenose starlight pleco. My tank has begun to smell, is this normal? And how long would it take for the bacteria to kick in? Sent from my 2014817 using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OMG Aquatics Posted December 5, 2015 Report Share Posted December 5, 2015 Are you adding any bacteria supplement like Seachem Stability or Tetra SafeStart? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
d0pey Posted December 5, 2015 Report Share Posted December 5, 2015 It's normal since you're doing a fish cycling, just keep up with small water changes and it should go away. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edishrimp Posted December 6, 2015 Author Report Share Posted December 6, 2015 Are you adding any bacteria supplement like Seachem Stability or Tetra SafeStart?Nope not that I know of. I did however add a layer of Borneo wild balance before adding the substrate if that counts?Are you adding any bacteria supplement like Seachem Stability or Tetra SafeStart? Sent from my 2014817 using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edishrimp Posted December 6, 2015 Author Report Share Posted December 6, 2015 It's normal since you're doing a fish cycling, just keep up with small water changes and it should go away.Hmm okay. Any idea how much water in supposed to change and how often?Sent from my 2014817 using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OMG Aquatics Posted December 6, 2015 Report Share Posted December 6, 2015 Nope not that I know of. I did however add a layer of Borneo wild balance before adding the substrate if that counts? Sent from my 2014817 using Tapatalk Get some bacterial supplement to speed up the cycle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
d0pey Posted December 6, 2015 Report Share Posted December 6, 2015 Hmm okay. Any idea how much water in supposed to change and how often? Sent from my 2014817 using Tapatalk I'd do about 10-15% depending on how high your ammonia is. Just keep an eye on your ammonia levels and that should tell you when you should do a water change. Too much water changes will stress out the fish, but so is high levels of ammonia. This is why I stopped doing fish cycling Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edishrimp Posted December 6, 2015 Author Report Share Posted December 6, 2015 Get some bacterial supplement to speed up the cycle.Any brands to suggest?Sent from my 2014817 using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edishrimp Posted December 6, 2015 Author Report Share Posted December 6, 2015 I'd do about 10-15% depending on how high your ammonia is. Just keep an eye on your ammonia levels and that should tell you when you should do a water change. Too much water changes will stress out the fish, but so is high levels of ammonia. This is why I stopped doing fish cycling Yeah, I decided to remove my fish. They did their job of introducing ammonia to my water column Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
d0pey Posted December 6, 2015 Report Share Posted December 6, 2015 Yeah, I decided to remove my fish. They did their job of introducing ammonia to my water column Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edishrimp Posted December 6, 2015 Author Report Share Posted December 6, 2015 You still however need a constant source of ammonia... LoLYeah for that I'll be getting white cloud mountain minnows for that. My neons have suffered enough imoSent from my 2014817 using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OMG Aquatics Posted December 6, 2015 Report Share Posted December 6, 2015 Any brands to suggest? Sent from my 2014817 using Tapatalk Seachem Stability and BioDigest Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
d0pey Posted December 6, 2015 Report Share Posted December 6, 2015 What substrate are you using? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sarah Posted December 6, 2015 Report Share Posted December 6, 2015 Yeah for that I'll be getting white cloud mountain minnows for that. My neons have suffered enough imo Sent from my 2014817 using Tapatalk How about a bottle of this instead? http://www.amazon.com/DrTims-Aquatics-Ammonium-chloride-bottle/dp/B006MP4QG6/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1449437370&sr=8-1&keywords=dr+tims+ammonia More precise and much less cruel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OMG Aquatics Posted December 6, 2015 Report Share Posted December 6, 2015 How about a bottle of this instead? http://www.amazon.com/DrTims-Aquatics-Ammonium-chloride-bottle/dp/B006MP4QG6/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1449437370&sr=8-1&keywords=dr+tims+ammonia More precise and much less cruel That is great but what sucks is they got cheap and watered it down like crazy. It says 1 drop per gallon is 2 ppm but my bottle was more like 5 drops per gallon is 2 ppm. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edishrimp Posted December 6, 2015 Author Report Share Posted December 6, 2015 What substrate are you using?I'm using denerele inert substrateSent from my 2014817 using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edishrimp Posted December 6, 2015 Author Report Share Posted December 6, 2015 That is great but what sucks is they got cheap and watered it down like crazy. It says 1 drop per gallon is 2 ppm but my bottle was more like 5 drops per gallon is 2 ppm. I got myself some seeded material from my friends filter and some bacterial supplements too! I'll be sure to update y'all on the tank status soon! Thanks [emoji3] Sent from my 2014817 using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
d0pey Posted December 7, 2015 Report Share Posted December 7, 2015 I'm using denerele inert substrate Sent from my 2014817 using Tapatalk 6.4 PH is quiet low for neos/tiger (assuming since you are using substrate). might want to up that a bit when you're near the end of your cycle! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edishrimp Posted December 7, 2015 Author Report Share Posted December 7, 2015 6.4 PH is quiet low for neos/tiger (assuming since you are using substrate). might want to up that a bit when you're near the end of your cycle!Okay should I do it artificially or with chemicals? Cos I think the only reason its low is because I'm running pressurised CO2. My tap water is relatively hard at 7.2-7.4Sent from my 2014817 using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
d0pey Posted December 7, 2015 Report Share Posted December 7, 2015 Okay should I do it artificially or with chemicals? Cos I think the only reason its low is because I'm running pressurised CO2. My tap water is relatively hard at 7.2-7.4 Sent from my 2014817 using Tapatalk Shrimps are not too fond of co2.. I try to never mess with p.h as it can get quiet whacky. My only suggestion is to stop using co2 if you want to continue with shrimps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edishrimp Posted December 7, 2015 Author Report Share Posted December 7, 2015 Shrimps are not too fond of co2.. I try to never mess with p.h as it can get quiet whacky. My only suggestion is to stop using co2 if you want to continue with shrimps.Alright. I do kinda think that shrimps are more particular of the pH swing than the co2 but I'll take note.Sent from my 2014817 using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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