Glasshalffull Posted September 14, 2014 Report Share Posted September 14, 2014 This is my first shrimp tank so definitely don't want to rush it but i am getting pretty antsy the tanks been setup for two months cycling I plan on keeping mischlings to start with and adding some tbs later my parameters are ph 6.4, nitrites nitrates and ammonia are at 0 gh is at 6 kh is 0 i've had some mystery snails in for the last month and they're still going strong. But before I put any shrimp in I thought would more shrimpers and see what y'all thought Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mamashack Posted September 14, 2014 Report Share Posted September 14, 2014 Did you do tests throughout the cycle and if so did you see the nitrites rise and fall? If nitrates are 0 then it would appear there's been no beneficial bacterial activity. OR you are using the API test and haven't thoroughly mixed the #2 bottle enough and that can cause a spurious result. OR maybe you've got a chemical nitrate-reducer in there in which case you have no way of knowing whether it's cycled or not other than using livestock (not recommended). The nitrifying process always ends with nitrate being produced and the only other way to reduce nitrates non-chemically is by doing water changes. I don't like using livestock as an ammonia source - it's unreliable and needlessly unkind to the livestock when there are other sources. Also you have no control over how much is being added and sometimes that can lead to nitrite levels so high the cycle stalls. Far better imho to add a known quantity then you are in control. I cycled my shrimp tank using a handful of gravel from my other fish tank and adding appropriate household ammonia (ie no additives) using an interactive ammonia calculator on another forum I'm a member of. It took me 5 weeks to cycle the tank using only 6 doses of ammonia. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glasshalffull Posted September 14, 2014 Author Report Share Posted September 14, 2014 there was a rise and fall first in ammonia then the other two I was mainly wondering if I had waited long enough for biofilm to buildup Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shrimpo Posted September 14, 2014 Report Share Posted September 14, 2014 When ammonia and nitrite fall to 0, nitrate will increase. it will only read 0 if you do major water change or your tank is heavily planted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glasshalffull Posted September 14, 2014 Author Report Share Posted September 14, 2014 i've been doing pretty big water changes weekly while it was cycling and it's also planted don't know if I would call it heavily planted tho I have java moss some java fern driftwood and some salvinia floaters up top Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shrimpo Posted September 14, 2014 Report Share Posted September 14, 2014 Looks like you are ready to add shrimp, acclimate them slowly to your parameters. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mamashack Posted September 14, 2014 Report Share Posted September 14, 2014 It would be a shame to lose stock for the sake of testing properly. If it's planted it may well be that the plants are taking up the ammonia and in the process starving out the bacteria. This means you have to keep the tank planted or risk a mini-cycle if you change or reduce the planting. I don't think you can tell for sure if it is ready unless you challenge the bacteria with 1-2 ppm ammonia and only if both ammonia and nitrite are zero after 24 hours would I consider it safe to add shrimp. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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