pictokid1983 Posted November 10, 2014 Report Share Posted November 10, 2014 Hi guys would like to seek some expertise. My fire red shrimps has been dying almost daily and their head's seems to be having some sort of black "patterns/patches" ? Is it some kind of diease ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OMG Aquatics Posted November 10, 2014 Report Share Posted November 10, 2014 Posting your water parameters is helpful. davesays 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DETAquarium Posted November 10, 2014 Report Share Posted November 10, 2014 Good looking shrimp. Water parameters and age of shrimp would be helpful. Alot of high grade RCS will have some dark deep red spots or stripes almost to the point of being black, not always a bad thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soothing Shrimp Posted November 10, 2014 Report Share Posted November 10, 2014 Deta is correct. Uneven patches can be common on neos. If ulcerations occur, it could be black spot disease. This is kinda rare in the US though, but I figured I'd provide info just in case: Taken from: http://www.tantora-intl.com/index.php?lay=show&ac=article&Id=539724902&Ntype=8 Catappa Leaves : Prevention Black Spot Disease of Dwarf Shrimp Black Spot Disease ; This disease is caused by Bacteria infection, Your shrimp will appear Black spot on head and body. Quote of Nasty12 member of www.aquaquotient.com “ What is black spot disease. The disease is caused by Benekea sp which attack main component of the cell walls of the exoskeletons of arthropods The early stages, lesions are small brown spots, ulcers after lesions gradually become black. Bacterial will destroyed muscle tissues under the shell. The most common bacterial infected area is the gill, abdominal muscle belly, tail section and gastropods. Seriously infected will just lie on its side, only gastropods and gills in motion. Black spot disease is one of the most common diseases. First the crustacean shell will get damaged, followed by crustaceans and detritus decomposing bacteria invade. Finally a deadly invasion of freshwater algae-like bacteria, spread and attack, causing shrimp mortality. (Happens when the immunity system is down)” Conclusion of research of Jiraporn Rojtinnakorn and Anchalee Tummarongkongsatid ; Catappa Leaves and Pomegranate Extract can prevent and treat bacterial infection that cause of Black spot disease in shrimp. So using Catappa Leaves and Pomegranate always in shrimp tank, they can prevent disease from Bacteria from lovely shrimp. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pictokid1983 Posted November 10, 2014 Author Report Share Posted November 10, 2014 Deta is correct. Uneven patches can be common on neos. If ulcerations occur, it could be black spot disease. This is kinda rare in the US though, but I figured I'd provide info just in case: Taken from: http://www.tantora-intl.com/index.php?lay=show&ac=article&Id=539724902&Ntype=8 Catappa Leaves : Prevention Black Spot Disease of Dwarf Shrimp Black Spot Disease ; This disease is caused by Bacteria infection, Your shrimp will appear Black spot on head and body. Quote of Nasty12 member of www.aquaquotient.com “ What is black spot disease. The disease is caused by Benekea sp which attack main component of the cell walls of the exoskeletons of arthropods The early stages, lesions are small brown spots, ulcers after lesions gradually become black. Bacterial will destroyed muscle tissues under the shell. The most common bacterial infected area is the gill, abdominal muscle belly, tail section and gastropods. Seriously infected will just lie on its side, only gastropods and gills in motion. Black spot disease is one of the most common diseases. First the crustacean shell will get damaged, followed by crustaceans and detritus decomposing bacteria invade. Finally a deadly invasion of freshwater algae-like bacteria, spread and attack, causing shrimp mortality. (Happens when the immunity system is down)” Conclusion of research of Jiraporn Rojtinnakorn and Anchalee Tummarongkongsatid ; Catappa Leaves and Pomegranate Extract can prevent and treat bacterial infection that cause of Black spot disease in shrimp. So using Catappa Leaves and Pomegranate always in shrimp tank, they can prevent disease from Bacteria from lovely shrimp. thanks so much soothing shrimp. By ulcerations what do you mean ? is there any pictures to guide me ? I did noticed many of them have irregular black patterns on their bodies lately and some of them the colors on the shell seems broken and frackled. Is it high chance a diease ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greenteam Posted November 10, 2014 Report Share Posted November 10, 2014 here's a few questions that helps others try and figure out what might be wrong. Hold is the tank? What's your parameters? Are the shrimp recently introduced to the tank? Add anything new to the tank? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soothing Shrimp Posted November 10, 2014 Report Share Posted November 10, 2014 thanks so much soothing shrimp. By ulcerations what do you mean ? is there any pictures to guide me ? I did noticed many of them have irregular black patterns on their bodies lately and some of them the colors on the shell seems broken and frackled. Is it high chance a diease ? Freckles and black patterns isn't black spot disease, so no worries there. That's just normal coloration. IN black spot the shell will be ulcerated. In other words, holes eaten through the shell. In America it has been pretty rare, and usually only brought in through imports. Chances are something is off with params. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pictokid1983 Posted November 10, 2014 Author Report Share Posted November 10, 2014 Freckles and black patterns isn't black spot disease, so no worries there. That's just normal coloration. IN black spot the shell will be ulcerated. In other words, holes eaten through the shell. In America it has been pretty rare, and usually only brought in through imports. Chances are something is off with params. roger that. will do a full test tomorrow and check it out again! thanks soothing Soothing Shrimp 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soothing Shrimp Posted November 10, 2014 Report Share Posted November 10, 2014 We all have to help each other, my friend. pictokid1983 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stonedaquarium Posted November 12, 2014 Report Share Posted November 12, 2014 any updates on your shrimp colony i hope it improves... been having some issues with my fire red colony as well Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pictokid1983 Posted November 15, 2014 Author Report Share Posted November 15, 2014 not much improvements, still dying daily... even the basic water parameters r ok and feeding regime have changed gradually. seriously im not sure what is happening as well Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
countryboy12484 Posted November 15, 2014 Report Share Posted November 15, 2014 not much improvements, still dying daily... even the basic water parameters r ok and feeding regime have changed gradually. seriously im not sure what is happening as wellim in the same boat buddy... You may have a bacterial problem.. Thats what im thinking the problem is in my tank pictokid1983 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soothing Shrimp Posted November 15, 2014 Report Share Posted November 15, 2014 If it is a bacterial infection, lots of tannins and lowering temperature can help. pictokid1983 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pictokid1983 Posted November 16, 2014 Author Report Share Posted November 16, 2014 If it is a bacterial infection, lots of tannins and lowering temperature can help. i will add a few more alder cones gradually, probably 3-4 stalks today and another 2 stalks a day for next 2-3days Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pictokid1983 Posted November 16, 2014 Author Report Share Posted November 16, 2014 im in the same boat buddy... You may have a bacterial problem.. Thats what im thinking the problem is in my tank thats what i felt too because the shrimplets are alright but the existing adults all lying dead one by one Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pastu Posted October 28, 2017 Report Share Posted October 28, 2017 On 10/11/2014 at 2:57 PM, Soothing Shrimp said: Deta is correct. Uneven patches can be common on neos. If ulcerations occur, it could be black spot disease. This is kinda rare in the US though, but I figured I'd provide info just in case: Taken from: http://www.tantora-intl.com/index.php?lay=show&ac=article&Id=539724902&Ntype=8 Catappa Leaves : Prevention Black Spot Disease of Dwarf Shrimp Black Spot Disease ; This disease is caused by Bacteria infection, Your shrimp will appear Black spot on head and body. Quote of Nasty12 member of www.aquaquotient.com “ What is black spot disease. The disease is caused by Benekea sp which attack main component of the cell walls of the exoskeletons of arthropods The early stages, lesions are small brown spots, ulcers after lesions gradually become black. Bacterial will destroyed muscle tissues under the shell. The most common bacterial infected area is the gill, abdominal muscle belly, tail section and gastropods. Seriously infected will just lie on its side, only gastropods and gills in motion. Black spot disease is one of the most common diseases. First the crustacean shell will get damaged, followed by crustaceans and detritus decomposing bacteria invade. Finally a deadly invasion of freshwater algae-like bacteria, spread and attack, causing shrimp mortality. (Happens when the immunity system is down)” Conclusion of research of Jiraporn Rojtinnakorn and Anchalee Tummarongkongsatid ; Catappa Leaves and Pomegranate Extract can prevent and treat bacterial infection that cause of Black spot disease in shrimp. So using Catappa Leaves and Pomegranate always in shrimp tank, they can prevent disease from Bacteria from lovely shrimp. Hoy to use pomeranate? Leaves? Fruit Shell? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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