Duff0712 Posted August 4, 2014 Report Share Posted August 4, 2014 Saw this on the web awhile ago and heard it was a good substrate, but supposedly they stopped making it. The store I work at just got some samples and I was wondering if anyone here had used it and if so how'd you like/dislike it and how does it compare to other substrates? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesHe Posted August 5, 2014 Report Share Posted August 5, 2014 It depends on which type of shrimp you plan to keep. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elo500 Posted August 5, 2014 Report Share Posted August 5, 2014 Fosters and smith just started selling it. http://www.drsfostersmith.com/product/prod_display.cfm?pcatid=28435 Says it lowers gh and ph < 7. For plants and shrimp. Also says not to use ugf. This substrate has been sold under various names and has been popular in Europe. It's made by controsoil and is marketed as Oliver knott soil in Europe. http://www.plantedtank.net/forums/sh...d.php?t=135236 http://www.oliver-knott.com/natureso...087573ab0.html. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duff0712 Posted August 5, 2014 Author Report Share Posted August 5, 2014 Hmmm sounds promising. I would probably keep TB's in it as it is supposed to lower ph below 7 as elo500 said Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
High5's Posted August 5, 2014 Report Share Posted August 5, 2014 It look's just like the new Fluval Stratum. Nice to have another choice of soils in the USA. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
h4n Posted August 5, 2014 Report Share Posted August 5, 2014 Ya seen this a few months ago on Dr. Foster. I'm going use it for my 12L TB tank also Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Puddles Posted August 5, 2014 Report Share Posted August 5, 2014 I'm not really keen on it reducing gh. I want to remineralize to my desired gh and leave it there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesHe Posted September 26, 2014 Report Share Posted September 26, 2014 Just ordered 15lbs bag of Escuro Fine from Drs. Foster and Smith. Looks promising to me. will try it out. I can get ADA Amazonia for $30 9L (~17-18lbs), but shipping is about $14. so Brightwell is about the same price per pound. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesHe Posted September 26, 2014 Report Share Posted September 26, 2014 Does anybody know how long I need to wait before put shrimp in? I have sponge filter cycled already. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
countryboy12484 Posted September 26, 2014 Report Share Posted September 26, 2014 Han just did A tank with that substrate he should be able to help ya Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
h4n Posted September 26, 2014 Report Share Posted September 26, 2014 It definitely doesn't leech ammonia like amazonia does. I added a test crs two weeks later and hes still alive. I'm on the 4th week now? I also use MK-Breed Z silver powder and Biodigest so maybe that helped? Brand new canister filter. High5's 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
h4n Posted September 26, 2014 Report Share Posted September 26, 2014 well what do you know its exactly a month later lol http://www.shrimpspot.com/index.php?/topic/1224-mr-aqua-12l-shrimp-tank/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
High5's Posted September 26, 2014 Report Share Posted September 26, 2014 I am going on 2 month's with ada Amazonia still leaching after 7 100% w/c, I am starting to think the old standard is on it's way out and new non leaching substrates combined with speed up additives will take over. I have read some Asian soils + additives 4 hour cycle and shrimp go in. Could we get some water parameters Han? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
h4n Posted September 26, 2014 Report Share Posted September 26, 2014 haha if i ever get time to bust out the test kit. also I have yet done big water change either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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