judyok Posted June 18, 2015 Report Share Posted June 18, 2015 See the name thrown around alot can you describe to me the physical characteristics of a pinto? Johnnydok 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dendrobatez Posted June 18, 2015 Report Share Posted June 18, 2015 Tiger shrimp x crystal x Taiwan Bee Has to have full coloration http://shrimpstate.com/classification-of-pinto/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
judyok Posted June 18, 2015 Author Report Share Posted June 18, 2015 What do you mean by it has to have full coloration? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greenteam Posted June 18, 2015 Report Share Posted June 18, 2015 if you read the article he link it has good info. Dendrobatez 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dendrobatez Posted June 18, 2015 Report Share Posted June 18, 2015 Its like a high grade CRS, you don't want any clear spots in the shell - it should all be covered by nice and rich coloration. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
judyok Posted June 18, 2015 Author Report Share Posted June 18, 2015 Thank you for the more detailed explanation of full coloration Dendrobatez. I see that the article is stressing the difference between German and Taiwan Pintos. I know this is going to be a stupid question, but here goes. Does that matter? Is it important to have that distinction? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shrimpie Posted June 18, 2015 Report Share Posted June 18, 2015 That is a good question Judy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dendrobatez Posted June 18, 2015 Report Share Posted June 18, 2015 I feel like the article is more about clearing up some of the confusion in the terminology used for the different pattern variations and not to say one is better than the other. It says "Till date, these shrimps are still named “German Pinto” as a form of respect as the pattern of these shrimps are founded by a German breeder even though they are bred massively in Taiwan" so to me its about paying homage to the shrimps origins rather than simply classifying them. Personal opinion though, I don't own any at the moment - soon... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DETAquarium Posted June 18, 2015 Report Share Posted June 18, 2015 That is a great article I have read a couple times. A pinto is made by crossing either a CRS/CBS x Tiger or Taiwan Bee x Tiger. The result is a Tibee, you then need to cross the Tibee back to a Taiwan Bee, the result is a TaiTibee. These TaiTibee usually have various patterns and shades of coloration that will enhance as you get farther down the generation(s) (F1, F2, F3, etc). A Pinto shrimp is technically a TaiTibee with a specific pattern, Zebra, Spotted Head, Skunk, etc. that usually show up as early as a F2 generation, but will be more prevalent in the later. This may of been a little over-the-top, but I feel it may help with your idea behind a Pinto shrimp. EricM and Soothing Shrimp 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
judyok Posted June 18, 2015 Author Report Share Posted June 18, 2015 That was helpful shrimp connoisseur and not over the top at all. So I'm beginning to see why they are so costly. Sounds like much time and effort must be put into developing a pinto. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EricM Posted June 19, 2015 Report Share Posted June 19, 2015 That is a great article I have read a couple times. A pinto is made by crossing either a CRS/CBS x Tiger or Taiwan Bee x Tiger. The result is a Tibee, you then need to cross the Tibee back to a Taiwan Bee, the result is a TaiTibee. These TaiTibee usually have various patterns and shades of coloration that will enhance as you get farther down the generation(s) (F1, F2, F3, etc). A Pinto shrimp is technically a TaiTibee with a specific pattern, Zebra, Spotted Head, Skunk, etc. that usually show up as early as a F2 generation, but will be more prevalent in the later. This may of been a little over-the-top, but I feel it may help with your idea behind a Pinto shrimp. great description of how/what a pinto is. DETAquarium 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
judyok Posted June 19, 2015 Author Report Share Posted June 19, 2015 So is the appearance of a Pinto somewhat like CRS and CBS, but the stripes are inverted? Pinto in red or black with white stripes and CRS & CBS are white with red or black stripes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monty703 Posted June 19, 2015 Report Share Posted June 19, 2015 I have both the spotted head Pinto Mischlings and a black Taiwan Pinto. My male Taiwan looks identical to the one in the photo of this article and my spotted headed black mischlings are the same as the one in the photo but not a good quality as that one (my females have some less solid areas in the shell) I have 2 females with a lot of eggs (soon to hatch maybe this week) and I am hoping that the Taiwan Pinto male is the Daddy. What comes out I don't have a clue. They are totally cool looking shrimps and I like them better than the regular Taiwan Bees. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesHe Posted June 20, 2015 Report Share Posted June 20, 2015 Pinto has more stripes than TB, due to gene from Tiger ancestor. So far I know. head spot is unique trait of German Pinto. Taiwan breeders try to duplicate the German Pinto with head spots without success, though they created Taiwan Pinto ( zebra, white belly, etc). Taiwan Pinto does have unique ones. Like Fishbone Pinto. High5's 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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