Vinman Posted December 3, 2014 Report Share Posted December 3, 2014 I just seen this on FB it is a rili cross a few generations latter. The guy that posted it said it was his friend's shrimp Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tigori Posted December 3, 2014 Report Share Posted December 3, 2014 More like extremely selective bred blue red rili Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jadenlea Posted December 3, 2014 Report Share Posted December 3, 2014 pretty. I feel like I remember them being around a couple years ago with some kind of forth of july name. patriot shrimp or.. LOL I can't remember but it had something to do with red white and blue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Posted December 3, 2014 Report Share Posted December 3, 2014 Just a Blue Rili, not a cross. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vinman Posted December 3, 2014 Author Report Share Posted December 3, 2014 I think the guy crossed a rili into other Neo's. I never seen a red and blue Rili Here is what he wrote on FB ( Not mine, but a mates... just What can be done with Rilis if your up for some mix and matching breeding ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Posted December 3, 2014 Report Share Posted December 3, 2014 Blue Rili have been around for years. They were selectively bred from Red Rili. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vinman Posted December 3, 2014 Author Report Share Posted December 3, 2014 Yes but when have there bin a red a blue Rili. A ril is either red or blue at the ends and clear in the middle. This shrimp is red on the ends and blue in the middle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Posted December 3, 2014 Report Share Posted December 3, 2014 Really? http://ebi-ken.blogspot.ca/2011/11/blue-rili.html That's from 2011. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
countryboy12484 Posted December 3, 2014 Report Share Posted December 3, 2014 Its just a rili... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vinman Posted December 3, 2014 Author Report Share Posted December 3, 2014 So why has this shrimp not been mass produced. It is way better looking than a normal rili Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Posted December 3, 2014 Report Share Posted December 3, 2014 So why has this shrimp not been mass produced. It is way better looking than a normal rili It has been, neos are all about the new variation. Once the new one is out, others drop in value and lose tank space especially with breeders who are willing to spend the time to keep quality of variation up at a high level. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vinman Posted December 3, 2014 Author Report Share Posted December 3, 2014 I found the website that guy got the picture from on FB http://www.wirbelloseandmore.de/garnelen.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vinman Posted December 3, 2014 Author Report Share Posted December 3, 2014 I would love to breed these Thanks guys Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vinman Posted December 3, 2014 Author Report Share Posted December 3, 2014 here is the post on FB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mlsthuy1 Posted December 3, 2014 Report Share Posted December 3, 2014 I have a lot of those guys in my rili colony, just put some blue velvets in there. It will not mess up the genes, or breed back into wild (brown). Don't try rili with blue pearl; it will not turn out well. Vinman 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vinman Posted December 3, 2014 Author Report Share Posted December 3, 2014 Thanx maybe in the spring I can buy some of your red and blue rilis Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tigori Posted December 3, 2014 Report Share Posted December 3, 2014 I found the website that guy got the picture from on FB http://www.wirbelloseandmore.de/garnelen.html Blue red rili is pretty common actually. And that site is owned by Michael Nadal. Easily one of EU's best shrimp breeder. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vinman Posted December 3, 2014 Author Report Share Posted December 3, 2014 This site is great I'm learning so much here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vinman Posted December 3, 2014 Author Report Share Posted December 3, 2014 here is another comment he wrote. I have to agree with this countryboy12484 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Posted December 3, 2014 Report Share Posted December 3, 2014 No one said you can't mix them, just don't expect to keep producing quality versions of the variant. Has he produced anything cool from mixing? All he has is a pic of a blue rili he stole from Michael Nadal. Tigori and Soothing Shrimp 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vinman Posted December 3, 2014 Author Report Share Posted December 3, 2014 You have to say to yourself where are they coming up with all these new morphs of neo's. The only thing that comes to mind is that they are crossing different morphs together Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Posted December 3, 2014 Report Share Posted December 3, 2014 Selective breeding. I'm not saying crossing won't produce anything new but people who buy a $12 neo normally want to produce the same variant. People have weird ones pop up once in a while in single variant tanks. When you are breeding on the scale some breeders are, you can get small groups of weird ones. Then they can separate and line breed to prove out and stabalize the gene. It'll take one generation to muddle the genes that took multiple ones to isolate and refine, that's why breeders don't want you to mix variants. Again, you're getting this conspiracy theory from someone whose never produced anything, stolen a pic from a famous breeder and claimed it was his mate's?????? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vinman Posted December 3, 2014 Author Report Share Posted December 3, 2014 Yes this is what I plan on doing. I know a lot about genetics as I bred pattern and color mutations together in mice and corn snakes . The problem is when most people cross 2 morphs together they give up when they get browns. You need to wait a few generations to see if you get more than one gene on one animal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soothing Shrimp Posted December 3, 2014 Report Share Posted December 3, 2014 LOL I think you found 2 answers to your statement. 1) Why do suppliers tell you not to mix shrimp? They won't breed true anymore. Short and simple. Most people want true breeding varieties- unless someone wants to play with selective breeding and the space, time and money involved.. and 2) The poster of Michael Nadal's shrimp is a liar. mayphly, Ron and JamesHe 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vinman Posted December 3, 2014 Author Report Share Posted December 3, 2014 My belief is they want to corner the shrimp market . They don't want people making new morphs because it will take money out of their pockets. The bottom line is they want a monopoly on the shrimp game Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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