robt666 Posted January 8, 2015 Report Share Posted January 8, 2015 my 7.5g tank (fluval ebi set) and my shrimp (cbs/red rili) might arrive on the same day. should i put my shrimp rigth away and gamble it. or should i cycle first. fill free to suggest any thing thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OMG Aquatics Posted January 8, 2015 Report Share Posted January 8, 2015 I would gamble it UNLESS your a very patient person which I'm not. Just put substrate then fill to top and let your heater do it's thing till the temp is right. Then add prime as dosage recommended. Wait 10 minutes. Add shrimp and dose stability for 7 days. Dose prime every 48 hours for the next 7 days. After 7 days have passed, measure for Ammonia/Nitrite/Nitrate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aquariumlover10 Posted January 8, 2015 Report Share Posted January 8, 2015 Above can explain better then me, also do daily 1g pwcs to help. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyeGuy411 Posted January 8, 2015 Report Share Posted January 8, 2015 Well if you have ordered both for some reason without setting up the tank first it sounds like you have no choice. I personally would never put shrimp in an uncycled tank huge waste of money and its not fair to the poor shrimp to die a slow agonizing death in an uncycled tank. Also there is no biofilm for the shrimp to eat so if the tank cycle doesnt kill them they could slowly starve. Shrimp are grazers and the occaisonal feeding of shrimp foods is more for us than to satisfy all their food intake. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OMG Aquatics Posted January 8, 2015 Report Share Posted January 8, 2015 Well if you have ordered both for some reason without setting up the tank first it sounds like you have no choice. I personally would never put shrimp in an uncycled tank huge waste of money and its not fair to the poor shrimp to die a slow agonizing death in an uncycled tank. Also there is no biofilm for the shrimp to eat so if the tank cycle doesnt kill them they could slowly starve. Shrimp are grazers and the occaisonal feeding of shrimp foods is more for us than to satisfy all their food intake. I think the shrimp community takes cycling a bit over their head. The amount of ammonia produced by shrimp poop is close to 0 unless you have 100+ shrimp and fed a lot. So the only issue here is biofilm build up. Dosing Bacter AE daily or every other day should help. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
High5's Posted January 8, 2015 Report Share Posted January 8, 2015 If it comes with the new fluval substrate it will leach ammonia, your going to have to cycle the tank until it stops leeching ammonia. I personally would cycle the tank for 4 week's to provide time for development of bio film and beneficial bacteria. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aquariumlover10 Posted January 8, 2015 Report Share Posted January 8, 2015 I have an idea, go and buy a critter keeper from a lfs or pet store, and fill with tap water, add enough prime and buy a small air pump and hook it up to the tank, add some gravel and a plant or two, and then add a deskblamp above it and throw some food in it before shrimp get there, and the shrimp should be fine for awhile if you can have it setup for a week or so before they arrive. Rodan76 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rodan76 Posted January 8, 2015 Report Share Posted January 8, 2015 I have an idea, go and buy a critter keeper from a lfs or pet store, and fill with tap water, add enough prime and buy a small air pump and hook it up to the tank, add some gravel and a plant or two, and then add a deskblamp above it and throw some food in it before shrimp get there, and the shrimp should be fine for awhile if you can have it setup for a week or so before they arrive. i think that is a much better idea that just crossing your fingers and hoping they make it. Is there anyone you know that has an established tank that you can beg borrow or steal some of their filter media or anything that might already have some beneficial bacteria that will help cycle the new tank? i think the cbs are going to have a hard time either way. I wish you good luck! aquariumlover10 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve R. Posted January 8, 2015 Report Share Posted January 8, 2015 I agree with aquariumlover. I had a similar problem once. I put the shrimps into a 10 G plastic container (storage box) with lots of plants and some leaves. My shrimps did well. After my tank was cycled, I transferred my shrimps. If you put your shrimps into an uncycled tank, it will probably mean their death. It is the nitrite that will kill them during the establishment of the bacterial communities. AFTER the nitrite peaks and goes back to zero, it should be OK to put your shrimps into the tank. Rodan76 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robt666 Posted January 9, 2015 Author Report Share Posted January 9, 2015 oh i forgot to mention i do have 20g tank with fish( i just dont want to mix then with my yoyo loach i dont trust them the loach might harass or kill my new shrimps i bought it on boxing day so all of them are for sale thanks for the great ideas ----> can i use the same water on my 20g to my fluval ebi to help with the cycle and add my zebra danio? ----> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kubism Posted January 9, 2015 Report Share Posted January 9, 2015 I personally wouldn't put shrimps into a unicycle tank, unless you're willing to risk the possibility that all the shrimps will die RyeGuy411 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ANBU Posted January 9, 2015 Report Share Posted January 9, 2015 Get some stability seachem . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aquariumlover10 Posted January 9, 2015 Report Share Posted January 9, 2015 Do what I said, but yak all the water from your 20g and use some filter media to help cycle the nee tank. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soothing Shrimp Posted January 9, 2015 Report Share Posted January 9, 2015 Does no good to use used water. The beneficial bacteria lives on surfaces. To jump start move objects over, seeded filters, etc. Start with new water to avoid nasties. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dendrobatez Posted January 9, 2015 Report Share Posted January 9, 2015 I've used sterilite shoe boxes before with gravel and a large sponge filter. I through a bunch of java moss and old filter media in their and would do 5% wc everyday and dose prime, supposed to detoxify ammonia. Seemed to work fine for a couple weeks til my tank was done Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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