Lyana Posted March 18, 2015 Report Share Posted March 18, 2015 Hi all, I figured I'd ask the experts here and see what they say I bought some shrimp off aquabid that were labeled as dream blue rili, but they look a lot like mixed grade carbon rilis to me. I was wondering if anyone knows, did dream blue rili come from carbons? Or even the other way around? I kind of wanted to add some high grade carbons to get more of the rili look but I'm not sure which I have or if interbreeding by mistake is going to give me wild colors. Some had babies and they're not throwing other colors, some are tiger pattern, some rili and some blondes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGardenofEder Posted March 18, 2015 Report Share Posted March 18, 2015 Carbon rillis come from blue diamond if I'm not mistaken. I've never had blue dreams so I don't know sorry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lyana Posted March 18, 2015 Author Report Share Posted March 18, 2015 I remember speedie saying dream blues come from blue velvets, not sure about dream blue rili though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soothing Shrimp Posted March 18, 2015 Report Share Posted March 18, 2015 yeah, there's some confusion because certain shrimp colors can look like other colors. I personally think dream blue rilis and blue carbon rilis look the same. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lyana Posted March 18, 2015 Author Report Share Posted March 18, 2015 Yeah, me too. But is it safe to mix them? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soothing Shrimp Posted March 18, 2015 Report Share Posted March 18, 2015 Only way to find out is to take a sample of each and cross them. If no wilds, and phenotype is constant- you're good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lyana Posted April 2, 2015 Author Report Share Posted April 2, 2015 They already have had some clear colored babies, wild I guess? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metageologist Posted April 2, 2015 Report Share Posted April 2, 2015 That may color up. When I crossed by blue velvets and red rillis some started out clear but ended up black. Some did end up looking wild however. have a gneiss day Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Posted April 2, 2015 Report Share Posted April 2, 2015 Dream Blues were developed from Carbon Rili and a colony of Dream Blues will still throw Carbons. Carbon rillis come from blue diamond if I'm not mistaken. I've never had blue dreams so I don't know sorry. I think you are mistaken. Blue Diamonds were developed from Chocolates which were developed from Painted Fire Reds. I had a colony of Carbon Rili before Blue Diamonds were available. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soothing Shrimp Posted April 2, 2015 Report Share Posted April 2, 2015 Not sure which came first. I know I bought "black rilis" and sold them off before the carbon strain came out. Some background info for anyone reading: Chocolates occasionally throw carbons, reds, and the occasional blue, as well as the occasional wild. The blue diamond was a selected var of chocolate, as well as the carbon. Blue diamonds can produce carbons, chocolates, blacks, reds and other colors, but I have not found this to be the case with carbons. (Maybe there is a true body strain color of carbons out there, but I have bought both blue body and clear body and found both will throw both clear and blue bodies. I have been able to increase the blue body % by selective breeding, and I suspect others are doing teh same.) Those shrimp from blue diamonds that did not display the phenotype wanted were sold as regular Diamonds. These produce a rainbow of colors that can be kept together, and are often sought as a base to create a new var. It is rare to find just regular diamond strain now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lyana Posted April 2, 2015 Author Report Share Posted April 2, 2015 I asked the seller and will see what he says, my shrimp look just like carbons to me. They're not blue dream velvets, I know that. But they were sold as blue dream rili, which i haven't found much info on. A couple of the big females have started getting some brown spots, but other then that, only rili and totally clear shrimp from the babies. So many different shrimp names out there! Soothing Shrimp 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monty703 Posted April 4, 2015 Report Share Posted April 4, 2015 I have splotched blue rilis, not sure if they are carbon or blue....some are dark blueish, some are lighter blueish and have patches on them, kinda cool looking. My female is the one that produced all the dark blue babies...none of those were splotched. here's a couple of mine, in with blue dreams, blue wizards and rilis. This is my blue neo tank. mbenjamin16 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lyana Posted April 5, 2015 Author Report Share Posted April 5, 2015 Mine look at lot like yours! I'm kind of doubting the existent of dream blue rilis lol. I think they're carbon, but either way they are cool. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Citycode01 Posted April 5, 2015 Report Share Posted April 5, 2015 I've got carbon rili shrimps in small tank and also blue jelly in bigger tank. I'm not sure if blue jelly is the same as blue dream. Is the shrimp on my profile picture blue dream? Can I mix carbon rili and that blue jelly together without having wilds pop out? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lyana Posted April 6, 2015 Author Report Share Posted April 6, 2015 The one in your pic looks like blue velvet to me. Not sure about mixing, I wouldnt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soothing Shrimp Posted April 6, 2015 Report Share Posted April 6, 2015 Blue Jelly is very close to BV. Jury is out on how they were developed. Lyana 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monty703 Posted April 6, 2015 Report Share Posted April 6, 2015 I just love all blue shrimps so to me mixing them doesn't matter. My daughter just set hers up too with blues and whatever I end up with she will get a lot of them too. They look like grapes hanging off my green plants first thing in the am when I turn on the lights! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Citycode01 Posted April 6, 2015 Report Share Posted April 6, 2015 Thanks for advise, I probably try to put female of blue jelly into carbon rili tank and see how baby would look like, need to be patient as it can take a couple months or even more then if the baby will be blue carbon or similar I would mix them together. Need to clear up my 80L tank from red cherries, they too boring and I have around 400 of them now and the population keep growing, it would be difficult to sell them all so I probably through them in my community fish tank and replace them with blue jelly/carbon rily and plus I have F1 crystal shrimps and a lot of them berried now and hopefully they can give me Taiwan bee one day. Just a little step further in shrimp keeping hobby :-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muratkocer Posted October 2, 2017 Report Share Posted October 2, 2017 On 06.04.2015 at 11:46 PM, Citycode01 said: Thanks for advise, I probably try to put female of blue jelly into carbon rili tank and see how baby would look like, need to be patient as it can take a couple months or even more then if the baby will be blue carbon or similar I would mix them together. Need to clear up my 80L tank from red cherries, they too boring and I have around 400 of them now and the population keep growing, it would be difficult to sell them all so I probably through them in my community fish tank and replace them with blue jelly/carbon rily and plus I have F1 crystal shrimps and a lot of them berried now and hopefully they can give me Taiwan bee one day. Just a little step further in shrimp keeping hobby :-) hi, did you try to cross blue jelly with carbon rili, and get the results? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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