phreeflow Posted July 25, 2015 Report Share Posted July 25, 2015 Wow, I just learned something. I literally lost another shrimp (Orange Rili) in a Marina (have 3 boxes setup) last night. As usual, there were 2 fresh molts in there as well. The shrimp looked freshly dead and the abdomen was being chewed on. They have lots to eat in there but it may be too crowded. Thanks for the explanation. I'm going to reduce the numbers in the boxes. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EricM Posted July 25, 2015 Report Share Posted July 25, 2015 best way to use breeder boxes is only putting shrimp in their you want to breed. once the female becomes berried release them back into the tank. I've used them with either m/f only or m and a couple females. but also ensure their are hiding places and such. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve R. Posted July 25, 2015 Report Share Posted July 25, 2015 OK, what are we talking about? Meat or proteins from an animal source? Many people consider meat to be from an mamalian source, such as beef or pork. Mammalian meat is not good for shrimps. It contains high amounts of proteins that are not found in the natural enviroment of shrimps, such as mammalian-specific collagens. Because shrimps did not evolve to digest proteins from mammalian sources, they can not break them up very well. Proteins from aquatic animals (worms, snails, fish, other crustaceans, etc.) are a different story. Their proteins can be digested more easily. Of course you don't want to overfeed in any case. I caught my Caridina sulawesi shrimps eating a fish body (yellow rasbora/Microdevario kubotai) a few days ago (see picture). They loved it. I am sure that this was a good protein source for them. mbenjamin16 and EricM 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
High5's Posted July 26, 2015 Report Share Posted July 26, 2015 I fed San Francisco Bay Brand blood worms/ mosquito larva today everyone seemed to like it. I mushed them up a bit so they could rip at the blood worms. I'd really like to cultivate my own earth worms and dehydrate them and start using it for my supplemental protein source. Maybe experiment with meal worms and wax worms. I think in nature they occasionally come across dead fish, amphibians, snails, shrimp, insects, worms as part of there natural diet. The key to anything in life is balance. mbenjamin16 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mbenjamin16 Posted July 26, 2015 Author Report Share Posted July 26, 2015 I guess i was meaning animal source protein. when i thought of meat i thoughy of blood worms and stuff like that not just meat like beef and pork. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve R. Posted July 27, 2015 Report Share Posted July 27, 2015 I'd really like to cultivate my own earth worms and dehydrate them and start using it for my supplemental protein source. Maybe experiment with meal worms and wax worms. Earthworms are probably fine. I would not try meal worms or wax worms. They are hard to digest. I kept salamanders for some years and even for those meal worms or wax worms are not recommended. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sarah Posted July 27, 2015 Report Share Posted July 27, 2015 Some of the foods I feed my shrimp have animal proteins: green-lipped mussel, squid, shrimp. They are doing great, so I don't feel any need to add worms or anything else. mbenjamin16 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shrimple minded Posted July 27, 2015 Report Share Posted July 27, 2015 Would snails (crushed) count as a meat or other protein source? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
High5's Posted July 27, 2015 Report Share Posted July 27, 2015 Would snails (crushed) count as a meat or other protein source?Yes. mbenjamin16 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mbenjamin16 Posted July 28, 2015 Author Report Share Posted July 28, 2015 thank you everyone for the info that has been posted on here i have learned alot reading what everyone has posted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phreeflow Posted July 29, 2015 Report Share Posted July 29, 2015 Ditto... Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
35ppt Posted July 29, 2015 Report Share Posted July 29, 2015 ditto x2 now I'm starting to think about lipids, too, wrt protein sources..... 35ppt 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mayphly Posted July 29, 2015 Report Share Posted July 29, 2015 I use earthworm powder as a source of protein in my powder food mix for my shrimp. It's an excellent source of protein for shrimp. Here's a little info on it http://www.earthwormvietnam.com/?frame=news_detail&id=82 Soothing Shrimp 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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