Vicente Mcdonnell Posted July 22, 2014 Report Share Posted July 22, 2014 For CRS at least, if you want to enhance the white you can breed them with snow white shrimp from what i understand. Does the same apply to TBs when it comes to enhancing color? If i wanted to strip coloring, can i breed a TB with a crystal white? Or more interestingly can i influence a TBs color to be more red by breeding it with a red shrimp like red KK or red CRS? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ctaylor3737 Posted July 22, 2014 Report Share Posted July 22, 2014 Hmm there is a thread which may have the info your looking for. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soothing Shrimp Posted July 22, 2014 Report Share Posted July 22, 2014 "CRS at least, if you want to enhance the white you can breed them with snow white shrimp from what i understand. Does the same apply to TBs when it comes to enhancing color?" You would wind up with mischling "If i wanted to strip coloring, can i breed a TB with a crystal white?" Yes. That would give more opportunity for Blue Jelly or Green Hulk "Or more interestingly can i influence a TBs color to be more red by breeding it with a red shrimp like red KK or red CRS?" Again, to my understanding yes. evodrgn 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jayr_Tigley Posted July 22, 2014 Report Share Posted July 22, 2014 Breeding red/black taiwan bees with crystal red/black will also result to mischlings Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wicca32 Posted July 22, 2014 Report Share Posted July 22, 2014 i want to say i read on tpt that snow white will bring out the blue in blue bolt. as for stripes you will still get a few different grades when you breed them. so like a bkk can give pandas. and i think its getting where black will give black and blue and reds will give reds be it ruby or wine red. dont quote me on that though as mine are not breeding yet and i have them all together lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hungle64 Posted July 22, 2014 Report Share Posted July 22, 2014 For CRS at least, if you want to enhance the white you can breed them with snow white shrimp from what i understand. Does the same apply to TBs when it comes to enhancing color? If i wanted to strip coloring, can i breed a TB with a crystal white? Or more interestingly can i influence a TBs color to be more red by breeding it with a red shrimp like red KK or red CRS? Are you in US ? Where is your source for crystal white? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vicente Mcdonnell Posted July 23, 2014 Author Report Share Posted July 23, 2014 (edited) Oh i dont have any of the above shrimp save CRS. im just trying to learn as much as I can so i can formulate a breeding goal before i commit to more shrimp. The only crystal white ive seen belongs to speedieaquatics. I saw wonderful pictures of them. Im in redwood city CA. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Edited July 23, 2014 by mcdonnellv Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subtletanks91 Posted July 23, 2014 Report Share Posted July 23, 2014 Hello fellow redwood citian haha. ingor my pandas and one bb from speedie the rest I gor from lexinverts, orhunterfisher and someone else Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evodrgn Posted July 23, 2014 Report Share Posted July 23, 2014 The only problems I'm seeing is that if you do pursue this potential project it'd be hard to find actual snow whites. People always have goldens and they assume that since snows and goldens look the same they call them the same. Goldens have more red in their genes whereas snows actually have the blue/black in their genes. I could be wrong in this regard but when I was trying to find snow whites this was the information I came up upon. For example to increase blue coverage on the blue bolt you mix it with snow white to increase the coverage of the blue on the bolts body but will only see the effect after the second generation. I'd assume the same goes for stripping color off the BKK extreme and WR/RR extreme. If you're trying to influence TB color by mixing with CRS you'd end up with mischling as previously stated. Don't know if any of this helps ya but hope it does! =P Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hungle64 Posted July 23, 2014 Report Share Posted July 23, 2014 The white and blue colors are on the same place of gene order. Therefore to improve on more blue you will need a low quality of snow white( the low quality is based on the white coverage part). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evodrgn Posted July 23, 2014 Report Share Posted July 23, 2014 True that's why people mix them with "skeleton" bee but I have no idea where you find those and if they are snow whites or goldens lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soothing Shrimp Posted July 23, 2014 Report Share Posted July 23, 2014 They re kinda like the rili of the card world. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subtletanks91 Posted July 23, 2014 Report Share Posted July 23, 2014 I believe they are snow whites based on thechart. That keeps popping up on here And I can't find the darn things either believe me I've been trying lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evodrgn Posted July 23, 2014 Report Share Posted July 23, 2014 Hungle64's profile says he keeps pure snow whites if that's what your looking for eric lol unless you meant skeletons lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subtletanks91 Posted July 23, 2014 Report Share Posted July 23, 2014 I have snow whites and goldens both. I've been trying to find the skeletons Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evodrgn Posted July 23, 2014 Report Share Posted July 23, 2014 oOoOoOoOoOoOo gotcha. I've never seen anyone sell skeletons...wonder if Nick is able to grab some on his next import? (sorry to stray off topic) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subtletanks91 Posted July 23, 2014 Report Share Posted July 23, 2014 I'll pm nick now and see what the price will be maybe we can do a group buy? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evodrgn Posted July 23, 2014 Report Share Posted July 23, 2014 Hopefully he can get them if his source has them! I'm pretty sure a bunch of us would be down for group buy haha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sbarbee54 Posted July 24, 2014 Report Share Posted July 24, 2014 Snow whites will throw the, I have a bunch in my tb tank Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subtletanks91 Posted July 25, 2014 Report Share Posted July 25, 2014 Photos S.b. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sbarbee54 Posted July 25, 2014 Report Share Posted July 25, 2014 I will grab some tomorrow. I was thinking of selling a package of 10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subtletanks91 Posted July 25, 2014 Report Share Posted July 25, 2014 IDE be interested in buying a few but not sure I would have use for ten, depends on pricing as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ctaylor3737 Posted July 26, 2014 Report Share Posted July 26, 2014 Snow whites will throw the, I have a bunch in my tb tankI'm wondering what your guys take is with snow whites and golden, if I get a red and white pinto will mating with one make the white more solid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evodrgn Posted July 27, 2014 Report Share Posted July 27, 2014 Already have all the shrimp and tanks. I'm moving tanks tomorrow so I'll be able to officially start the project! Can't wait to see them shrimpies! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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