Shrimpy Daddy Posted November 7, 2014 Report Share Posted November 7, 2014 Firstly, I would like to apologise for not posting for a few weeks. I was totally tied up with work, traveling and I am working very hard on migrating my blog to a paid software.Finally today I have some time and, I started a controlled test on traditional nitrogen-fixing bacteria starter culture vs the advance probiotics starter culture. In this test I will be using my favourite nitrogen-fixing bacteria starter culture, which I used in the past, to versus my probiotic blend, which is Revive Vita. Please visit my blog for more information: http://www.shrimpyda...acteria-vs.html I will be posting update everyday until one of them has zero ammonium and zero NO2. Hence, please stay tune. ^^ Cheers. Shrimpy Daddy ANBU and davesays 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metageologist Posted November 7, 2014 Report Share Posted November 7, 2014 This will be interesting to follow. One question however you re fence a blue disk but I see yellow in the right, brown green in the middle and nothing on the right. Is the coloring of the disks being alterd by the camera. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shrimpy Daddy Posted November 7, 2014 Author Report Share Posted November 7, 2014 This will be interesting to follow. One question however you re fence a blue disk but I see yellow in the right, brown green in the middle and nothing on the right. Is the coloring of the disks being alterd by the camera. Yes, the lighting causes the colour to be different from actual. It is easier to see anything that is not yellow, NH3/NH4+ is present. In the test tomorrow, I will try to position my desk lamp farther and place the colour chart strip in between the two rows for comparison. metageologist 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EricM Posted November 7, 2014 Report Share Posted November 7, 2014 watching this thread. still very interested in the full line of products. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ch3fb0yrdee Posted November 7, 2014 Report Share Posted November 7, 2014 He still hasn't re-supplied me.. He's been Mr. Busy past couple of weeks. EricM 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shrimpy Daddy Posted November 8, 2014 Author Report Share Posted November 8, 2014 Hello everyone, I have just posted the progress of this test: http://www.shrimpydaddy.com/2014/11/traditional-nitrogen-fixing-bacteria-vs_8.html Cheers. Shrimpy Daddy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shrimpy Daddy Posted November 10, 2014 Author Report Share Posted November 10, 2014 Hi all, The test environment is designed wrongly, thus I stopped the test temporarily. For more details, please refer to my latest blog post: http://www.shrimpydaddy.com/2014/11/traditional-nitrogen-fixing-bacteria-vs_10.html Cheers. Wilson Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soothing Shrimp Posted November 10, 2014 Report Share Posted November 10, 2014 Each result you get is important. The challenges are just as important as successes! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shrimpy Daddy Posted November 10, 2014 Author Report Share Posted November 10, 2014 Yes, that's why I don't feel the experiment is wasted. At least it tell me coarse sponge will take much longer for bacteria to colonise. Soothing Shrimp 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metageologist Posted November 11, 2014 Report Share Posted November 11, 2014 Looking forward to the reset Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shrimpy Daddy Posted November 19, 2014 Author Report Share Posted November 19, 2014 Hi all, As you know, the first test failed because of the coarse sponge filter media is taking too long for the bacteria to colonise. Hence, I went back to drawing board and re-design this test. I had bought all the new materials and restarted the test on Monday night. For more details of this new test, please refer to my blog at: http://www.shrimpydaddy.com/2014/11/traditional-nitrogen-fixing-bacteria-vs_19.html Cheers. Shrimpy Daddy pictokid1983 and ANBU 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shrimpy Daddy Posted November 20, 2014 Author Report Share Posted November 20, 2014 Hi all, I just posted today's result. For the details, you will be able to find it in my blog: http://www.shrimpydaddy.com/2014/11/traditional-nitrogen-fixing-bacteria-vs_20.html Cheers. Shrimpy Daddy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shrimpy Daddy Posted November 21, 2014 Author Report Share Posted November 21, 2014 Hi all, I had just posted the day 4 result. You may find it here: http://www.shrimpydaddy.com/2014/11/traditional-nitrogen-fixing-bacteria-vs_21.html Cheers. Shrimpy Daddy chibikaie and EricM 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shrimpy Daddy Posted November 23, 2014 Author Report Share Posted November 23, 2014 Hello everyone!!! Hope you have a good weekend. I obtained a piece of interesting data today from this test. For more information, please refer to here: http://www.shrimpydaddy.com/2014/11/traditional-nitrogen-fixing-bacteria-vs_23.html Cheers. Shrimpy Daddy ANBU 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metageologist Posted November 23, 2014 Report Share Posted November 23, 2014 Interesting, who would have thought that would have made such a difference. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shrimpy Daddy Posted November 23, 2014 Author Report Share Posted November 23, 2014 Yes, I was surprised. It is a very interesting data for me. ANBU 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shrimpy Daddy Posted November 24, 2014 Author Report Share Posted November 24, 2014 Hello everyone!!! I have updated the today's progress on my blog. Please find the details here: http://www.shrimpydaddy.com/2014/11/traditional-nitrogen-fixing-bacteria-vs_24.html Cheers. Shrimpy Daddy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metageologist Posted November 24, 2014 Report Share Posted November 24, 2014 The lighting and nitrogen makes sense when we sample for nitrogen in water the lab sends us amber colored jars. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shrimpy Daddy Posted November 25, 2014 Author Report Share Posted November 25, 2014 The lighting and nitrogen makes sense when we sample for nitrogen in water the lab sends us amber colored jars. Really? That's a good information you provide, mate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shrimpy Daddy Posted November 29, 2014 Author Report Share Posted November 29, 2014 Good day, everyone!!! I had made some interesting discovery on the ammonium-fixing bacteria and I started performing the second phase of the experiment. For more information, please refer to my blog: http://www.shrimpydaddy.com/2014/11/traditional-nitrogen-fixing-bacteria-vs_29.html Cheers. Shrimpy Daddy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shrimpy Daddy Posted November 30, 2014 Author Report Share Posted November 30, 2014 Hello, everyone!!! I obtained some interesting data today, and I would like to share with everyone. For more details, please refer to my blog: http://www.shrimpydaddy.com/2014/11/traditional-nitrogen-fixing-bacteria-vs_30.html Cheers. Shrimpy Daddy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merth Posted November 30, 2014 Report Share Posted November 30, 2014 As someone that is always late to the party and not always quick on the uptake this seems to be a huge break through. If in fact the Revive Vita does consume nitrate as well as converting ammonia and nitrite this is a serious game changer for all aquatic keepers?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shrimpy Daddy Posted November 30, 2014 Author Report Share Posted November 30, 2014 Based on my friend's and my experience, it does consume a lot of nitrate and other nitrogen compound. The good side is that it will remove the nuisance nitrate for shrimp keeper. The bad side is that it will cause plants to be hungry for nitrogen compound. Currently, my dog is having kidney failing due to old age, and his blood is accumulating a lot of urea. I am feeding him high dosage of probiotics (designed for him, not the shrimp one) and hoping it could neutralise the urea; provided it is not too late to do this. If this works, it will be a big breakthrough for veterinary practice. Merth 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merth Posted November 30, 2014 Report Share Posted November 30, 2014 Well in a tank with just a few mosses i would think they would probably get enough nitrogen prior to consumption, possibly slowing the growth but out competing the algae. It will eliminate the possible need of floaters and allow top offs and less frequent water changes thereby lessening the chances of parameter swings due to said water changes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shrimpy Daddy Posted November 30, 2014 Author Report Share Posted November 30, 2014 Yup. I tested that too. It was recorded in my blog. That time I tested two stalks of narrow leaf Java fern. The compound that the probiotic created are able to be absorb by plants. However, it is still not enough for 20% plant mass or tanks that has Purigen. As such, I'm dosing additional 1 to 2ppm of NO3 daily to my low light partial planted tank. Yes, you do not need floater anymore. Floater will out compete trace nutrients with the shrimps. When we combined the Revive Vita with Purigen, the water is crystal clear and NO3 never go above 1ppm (unless we dose ourselves). There is only one thing that people may not like. Although Revive Vita does not create thick biofilm that that to scrap every week, it forms clear biofilm on water surface. This will block some light from plants. However, It can be removed easily when changing water. In addition, the shrimp loves to swim up and eat it. Sump tank user will have to be careful and make sure the overflow is covered with sponge. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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