DETAquarium Posted April 12, 2016 Report Share Posted April 12, 2016 Hey Shrimpspot! Looking for some options on Internal Breeder Boxes used for selectively breeding shrimp. I prefer acrylic or plastic, not mesh. Also, please give me any tips you find beneficial. Thank you, DETAquarium Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EricM Posted April 12, 2016 Report Share Posted April 12, 2016 how many are you looking for? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DETAquarium Posted April 12, 2016 Author Report Share Posted April 12, 2016 1 hour ago, bostoneric said: how many are you looking for? Not 100% sure at the moment. At least 1. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shrimple minded Posted April 12, 2016 Report Share Posted April 12, 2016 DET, I have a couple ZISS BL-2 breeder boxers. Fancy with all the bells and whistles, looks great. I have rimmed tanks so I have to use the suction cups, but they work well and I've had no issues. For your sexy setups, I think these might be the way to go. DETAquarium and Mr. F 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. F Posted April 12, 2016 Report Share Posted April 12, 2016 There's a BL-3 now. It looks like the only difference is a ss mesh bottom instead of plastic grate? DETAquarium 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turok Posted April 12, 2016 Report Share Posted April 12, 2016 I was thinking of the same idea... These for 2 for 55? on ebay, from Korea... is the only place I can find selling them. Can anyone get the BL-3 for a good price? I have a empty 100 gal tank I wanted to put like 15-20 in. Make a pvc pipe drip system over the top. I have a over top filter I am not using that would work. But the opening on the top of my acrylic tank is only six inches wide... But then, I have a screw together acclimation box I can assemble inside I am thinking about doing. It's 10x8x8. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DETAquarium Posted April 12, 2016 Author Report Share Posted April 12, 2016 13 minutes ago, turok said: These for 2 for 55? on ebay, from Korea... is the only place I can find selling them. Can anyone get the BL-3 for a good price? Nobody in the US carries them? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shrimple minded Posted April 12, 2016 Report Share Posted April 12, 2016 Try Beantown Aquatics: http://www.beantownaquatics.com/shop.html#!/Breeding-Supplies/c/14664004/offset=0&sort=normal Mr. F, Rivergardennursery and DETAquarium 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DETAquarium Posted April 13, 2016 Author Report Share Posted April 13, 2016 Does everyone prefer inside or outside breeder boxes? What is your reasoning? Thank you! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mayphly Posted April 13, 2016 Report Share Posted April 13, 2016 The Ziss box is nicely made. I bought one awhile ago. The only thing is that it's too big for my tanks. I have mostly 10g tanks set up and some 20L tanks. For selective breeding I prefer the small Marina HOB style boxes. They're cheaper, take up less room and effectively serve their purpose. The shrimp can't tell the difference. That's my 2 cents. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Soothing Shrimp, DETAquarium, EricM and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vpier Posted April 13, 2016 Report Share Posted April 13, 2016 3 hours ago, DETAquarium said: Does everyone prefer inside or outside breeder boxes? What is your reasoning? Thank you! Over the years I have preferred outside boxes. Doesn't take up any space inside the tank, easier to maintain and have better access to your fish or shrimp in the breeder box. Inside boxes can make maintenance in your tank more difficult and catching fish or shrimp is harder with an inside box. EricM and DETAquarium 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pescador Posted April 13, 2016 Report Share Posted April 13, 2016 I have a large Marina breeder box on the back of my tank 20L which I leave going 24/7. I put a thin layer of substrate on the bottom and a nice piece of willow moss. One of Mayfly's pseudo taibees likes it so much he has managed to climb into it 3-4 times now... Since I have it behind the tank you don't even notice it, keeping the main tank clutter free. It adds like 1.5 gallons of extra water capacity. I was going to buy a Ziss but Discobee sold out and the larger Marina breeder box was ~$14.00 on Amazon so I said why not. You might prefer the Finnex with a pump as I know your tanks do not have air driven filters. DETAquarium, Vpier and EricM 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vpier Posted April 13, 2016 Report Share Posted April 13, 2016 36 minutes ago, Pescador said: I have a large Marina breeder box on the back of my tank 20L which I leave going 24/7. I put a thin layer of substrate on the bottom and a nice piece of willow moss. One of Mayfly's pseudo taibees likes it so much he has managed to climb into it 3-4 times now... Since I have it behind the tank you don't even notice it, keeping the main tank clutter free. It adds like 1.5 gallons of extra water capacity. I was going to buy a Ziss but Discobee sold out and the larger Marina breeder box was ~$14.00 on Amazon so I said why not. You might prefer the Finnex with a pump as I know your tanks do not have air driven filters. I wonder what Mayphly is feeding his shrimps. They are notorious for escaping. Smart sneaky little buggers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mayphly Posted April 13, 2016 Report Share Posted April 13, 2016 You guys crack me up![emoji13] Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DETAquarium Posted May 16, 2016 Author Report Share Posted May 16, 2016 Hey ShrimpSpot! So I finally got around and received a couple of the Ziss BL-2 Breeder Boxes. I didn't see any instructions, but I think I threw it together fairly easy with one exception. What drives the suction for the air stone? I would assume it uses the same technique as the Choice/NAG Bubblers, but there is nothing to siphon the air through the air valve. Maybe I am missing the point completely. Someone fill the in the blanks for me. Outside of that looks like a nice box, Thanks all! DETAquarium Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shrimp Life Posted May 16, 2016 Report Share Posted May 16, 2016 I would love to see pics of people's internal boxes... I myself prefer the outside boxes.. they are affordable and easy to maintain/access. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EricM Posted May 16, 2016 Report Share Posted May 16, 2016 1 hour ago, DETAquarium said: Hey ShrimpSpot! So I finally got around and received a couple of the Ziss BL-2 Breeder Boxes. I didn't see any instructions, but I think I threw it together fairly easy with one exception. What drives the suction for the air stone? I would assume it uses the same technique as the Choice/NAG Bubblers, but there is nothing to siphon the air through the air valve. Maybe I am missing the point completely. Someone fill the in the blanks for me. Outside of that looks like a nice box, Thanks all! DETAquarium Not sure I understand the question....I believe it pulls water in from outside the box if I remember right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DETAquarium Posted May 16, 2016 Author Report Share Posted May 16, 2016 Not quite sure if it is an airstone or what it is that comes with the Ziss Breeder boxes. The Choice bubblers use a similar technique where it uses the outflow to pull air through the airline tubing at a rate of bubbles you can control to disperse bubbles into the aquarium. I thought it was the same thing that the Ziss breeder box comes with, but I am assuming I am wrong? I really have no clue as the air stone and tubing wouldn't have any siphon to create the bubbles as the bubblers do. That make sense now? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shrimp Life Posted May 16, 2016 Report Share Posted May 16, 2016 is it just a airstone that you attach to an airpump? EricM 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EricM Posted May 16, 2016 Report Share Posted May 16, 2016 yeah requires a pump to make pubbles. its not like a Choice piece where the venturi part with water flow of the eheim creates a suction to pull air down the tube. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DETAquarium Posted May 16, 2016 Author Report Share Posted May 16, 2016 That explains it then. Its a small piece of airline tubing, one end if the airstone, the other is an adjustment knob, doesn't make sense to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EricM Posted May 16, 2016 Report Share Posted May 16, 2016 yes so you can control the amount of air going down to the airstone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shrimp Life Posted May 16, 2016 Report Share Posted May 16, 2016 If I understand from the picture on the box, it looks like an airstone that creates bubbles, it looks like it does not do a water exchange from the tank the box. The mesh allows for the box water to be the same as the tank water... like bostoneric said. the knob is just to control the amount of bubbles you want in that box... This is different from an external box because the marina box siphones tank water into the box and then returns water from the box back into the tank - where as the ziss just sits inside the aquarium with an airstone for watermovement/oxygen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DETAquarium Posted May 16, 2016 Author Report Share Posted May 16, 2016 I am assuming you connect another piece of airline tubing to the adjustment side, then run that to the pump? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shrimp Life Posted May 16, 2016 Report Share Posted May 16, 2016 Just now, DETAquarium said: I am assuming you connect another piece of airline tubing to the adjustment side, then run that to the pump? Yes exactly, then when you turn the little knob you can make more or less bubble to suit your needs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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