brocknorman Posted April 22, 2016 Report Share Posted April 22, 2016 So I turned on my lights this morning to find 5 of my Taiwan Bees dead! 3 Blue Bolts and 2 Shadow Pandas. I think it was because I dosed API ALGAEFIX the night before, but I am not sure. Any ideas? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OMG Aquatics Posted April 22, 2016 Report Share Posted April 22, 2016 Pretty sure the product states not to use with inverts. Soothing Shrimp 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brocknorman Posted April 22, 2016 Author Report Share Posted April 22, 2016 I asked the person at the LFS and he's said he had used it on his shrimp. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PlantDude Posted April 22, 2016 Report Share Posted April 22, 2016 OMG is correct. Not sure what your LFS people were thinking. Soothing Shrimp 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dluxeshrimps Posted April 22, 2016 Report Share Posted April 22, 2016 20 minutes ago, brocknorman said: I asked the person at the LFS and he's said he had used it on his shrimp. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk some places will say anything to make a quick buck. sorry to hear about the deaths Soothing Shrimp and svetilda 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brocknorman Posted April 22, 2016 Author Report Share Posted April 22, 2016 Is Flourish Excel shrimp-safe? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heatherbee Posted April 22, 2016 Report Share Posted April 22, 2016 Not really. Some people push it and do little doses but not worth it to even try imo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brocknorman Posted April 22, 2016 Author Report Share Posted April 22, 2016 So what should I use for black bearn algae Siamese algae eaters? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PlantDude Posted April 22, 2016 Report Share Posted April 22, 2016 So what should I use for black bearn algae Siamese algae eaters? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Those are not shrimp safe. If I remember your tank was by a lot of light? Can you tell us more about your tank and we can try and help you out? Sent from my Nexus 6P using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brocknorman Posted April 22, 2016 Author Report Share Posted April 22, 2016 Well it is a 16 gallon lit by 2 LEDs. Has Christmas miss, Java fern, Java miss and some crypts. Has a ph of 6.5, GH 4 KH 1 nitrite 0 nitrate o chlorine 0. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brocknorman Posted April 23, 2016 Author Report Share Posted April 23, 2016 How should I treat black brush algae then? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davesays Posted April 23, 2016 Report Share Posted April 23, 2016 You can use hydrogen peroxide to get rid of bba. Mr. F 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShrimpP Posted April 23, 2016 Report Share Posted April 23, 2016 Oh, that's daring spot treating with those expensive shrimp in there. I still have heard people having shrimp deaths from H2O2 or even Excel. For me, black out worked (keep tank in darkness for days). Though I've done longer than most typically do black outs for. The plants I had in the tank, I didn't care much for, but most of them still survived. I would think your moss would be alright. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimko Posted April 23, 2016 Report Share Posted April 23, 2016 H2O2 should work. Inject or pipette over infected area. Start slow. A couple of treatments. Probably easier if you can take the infected pieces out of water. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phreeflow Posted April 24, 2016 Report Share Posted April 24, 2016 I never had an issue with H202 Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davesays Posted April 24, 2016 Report Share Posted April 24, 2016 Use small amounts and spot treat, I've used up to 10 ml in a 20g without any adverse reactions to my shrimp. Some shrimps even grazed the area after application, they didn't seem to be harmed. I was concerned with stabilizers in pharmacy ho2o so i went for the food grade stuff. This is just my experience, as with anything else use with caution and moderation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brocknorman Posted April 24, 2016 Author Report Share Posted April 24, 2016 I took out the plants and put them into my breeder box and I am treating with excel in the breeder box Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brocknorman Posted May 4, 2016 Author Report Share Posted May 4, 2016 How should I lower my GH, and Kh, and tds? Add RO water? But the RO water at my Walmart is at 138... Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShrimpP Posted May 4, 2016 Report Share Posted May 4, 2016 138 ppm TDS? How about Distilled water? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Purplepanda Posted May 4, 2016 Report Share Posted May 4, 2016 H202 will even kill hardy amanos let alone the more sensitive bees. You need to be conservative with your dosing and do things slowly. If there were my bees I would much rather opt for a mechanical eradication, removing the wood or problem areas and treating outside of the tank, depends what your priorities are.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brocknorman Posted May 4, 2016 Author Report Share Posted May 4, 2016 That's what i did. But now my GH Kh and TDS are high. TDS is at 215 Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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