OMG Aquatics Posted August 22, 2014 Report Share Posted August 22, 2014 When using this to cycle a tank, do I need to add prime every 48 hours? Or do I just add Stability everyday until I see nitrites/nitrate readings? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elo500 Posted August 22, 2014 Report Share Posted August 22, 2014 Prime is just for chlorine and chloramine. Stability just helps get the cycle going. I use it was each new tank and filter cleaning. Just watch your parameters and you'll know when it's cycled. I read where someone was using it like Bacter ae to feed shrimp. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesHe Posted August 22, 2014 Report Share Posted August 22, 2014 When using this to cycle a tank, do I need to add prime every 48 hours? Or do I just add Stability everyday until I see nitrites/nitrate readings? No prime during cycling. it would remove the NH3/NH4 as well, which is the key for cycling. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesHe Posted August 22, 2014 Report Share Posted August 22, 2014 I use RO water to start the cycling, not tap water. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OMG Aquatics Posted August 23, 2014 Author Report Share Posted August 23, 2014 Do I leave the tank lights closed when using stability? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesHe Posted August 23, 2014 Report Share Posted August 23, 2014 Do I leave the tank lights closed when using stability? It doesn't matter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OMG Aquatics Posted August 23, 2014 Author Report Share Posted August 23, 2014 My ammonia level doesn't seem to be raising. Any idea what's wrong? It's just 10g tank with blue sand and about 9g of water. Following instructions as stated but still no ammonia. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesHe Posted August 23, 2014 Report Share Posted August 23, 2014 My ammonia level doesn't seem to be raising. Any idea what's wrong? It's just 10g tank with blue sand and about 9g of water. Following instructions as stated but still no ammonia. if you're not using ADA aquasoil amazonia as substrate which leaches ammonia, you're doing fishless cycling. you need manually add ammonia. here is ammonia source you need: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OMG Aquatics Posted August 23, 2014 Author Report Share Posted August 23, 2014 I thought Stability increases your ammonia? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesHe Posted August 23, 2014 Report Share Posted August 23, 2014 I thought Stability increases your ammonia? No. ammonia -> NO2 -> NO3 by stability Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesHe Posted August 23, 2014 Report Share Posted August 23, 2014 check this out: http://www.drtimsaquatics.com/resources/how-to-start Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OMG Aquatics Posted August 24, 2014 Author Report Share Posted August 24, 2014 I notice a very disgusting smell in my tank. Is that a good or bad thing? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OMG Aquatics Posted August 24, 2014 Author Report Share Posted August 24, 2014 Smells like dead fish. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metageologist Posted August 24, 2014 Report Share Posted August 24, 2014 Sounds like your tank has gone stagnate. Are you running a filter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OMG Aquatics Posted August 24, 2014 Author Report Share Posted August 24, 2014 Yes sponge filter. Brand new tank. Only 3 days old. Dosing with stability. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OMG Aquatics Posted September 1, 2014 Author Report Share Posted September 1, 2014 So apparently I've been using stability wrong the whole time? No where does it say I need source of ammonia or fish when using stability. "If you doing a fishless cycle, then begin dosing the Stability when you begin adding ammonia or fish food and dose for 7 days. If you are cycling the tank with fish in it, begin dosing the Stability when the first fish is added to the tank." According to Product Support Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subtletanks91 Posted September 1, 2014 Report Share Posted September 1, 2014 Fish in out out you need a source of ammonia I've used stability for years. No ammonia means nothing for the bacteria in stability to eat. Duff0712 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OMG Aquatics Posted September 1, 2014 Author Report Share Posted September 1, 2014 I would be better if they told us this on the product. The product just says to keep a certain dosing for 7 days. It doesn't say we need ammonia. Newbies like me wouldn't know. Would be great of Seachem made an ammonia product to help cycling. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subtletanks91 Posted September 2, 2014 Report Share Posted September 2, 2014 That's what we are here for. But you need to understand cycling a tank. Once you do, what a product sais or does t say won't matter you'll know exactly what it does and why Soothing Shrimp 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bananariot Posted September 2, 2014 Report Share Posted September 2, 2014 There are plenty of sources of ammonia......u could throw ram shorn snails in there.....there is a flake food method......or u can be less "humane" and throw danios in there......like what I do lol. Soothing Shrimp 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OMG Aquatics Posted September 3, 2014 Author Report Share Posted September 3, 2014 Any idea what looks like hair algae except you can't suck them up? I found some in my old tank after dosing a little of stability in there for the first time and when doing my water change, I'm unable to suck it out like hair algae. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soothing Shrimp Posted September 3, 2014 Report Share Posted September 3, 2014 Clado, maybe? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OMG Aquatics Posted September 3, 2014 Author Report Share Posted September 3, 2014 yep looks the same. Stability has been giving me algae issues all over. No more will I be dosing this into tanks unless I'm trying to cycle it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ch3fb0yrdee Posted September 3, 2014 Report Share Posted September 3, 2014 It doesn't matter. I'd have to disagree. I would say this matters greatly. As a avid user of Seachem Stability, I can say unless you received a bad batch, I've never experience a correlation between algae and dosing stability. If you are in fact cycling with lights on (and I couldn't see why you would as it would be wasted electricity) you are introducing extra factors to an empty tank. This imbalance needs to balance somehow. Algae will normally take up this excess and grow. Algae is an indicator of an imbalanced tank. I have a tank sitting unlit, cycled for 6months, dosing stability daily, and the only algae I see currently is brown glass algae and this is results of neglect and long periods of no water changes. I still dose stability daily because my shrimps love the stuff. Typically, lighting will lead to algae. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesHe Posted September 3, 2014 Report Share Posted September 3, 2014 I'd have to disagree. I would say this matters greatly. As a avid user of Seachem Stability, I can say unless you received a bad batch, I've never experience a correlation between algae and dosing stability. If you are in fact cycling with lights on (and I couldn't see why you would as it would be wasted electricity) you are introducing extra factors to an empty tank. This imbalance needs to balance somehow. Algae will normally take up this excess and grow. Algae is an indicator of an imbalanced tank. I have a tank sitting unlit, cycled for 6months, dosing stability daily, and the only algae I see currently is brown glass algae and this is results of neglect and long periods of no water changes. I still dose stability daily because my shrimps love the stuff. Typically, lighting will lead to algae. Well, what I mean is that light doesn't affect nitrifying bacteria. it doesn't live in the water column but medias in the filter. and algae is good thing for shrimp, that's their main food source. I never had any algae issue unless I don't have good healthy colony. I can show you photos for comparison: good colony: only few shrimp in the tank: you can see shrimp did very good job to clean the tank. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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