Mr. F Posted June 19, 2016 Report Share Posted June 19, 2016 So I have two different blue steels at the moment. One is very small, likely male, with intense an dark blue hood and light yellow tail. Very nice white across the whole carapace. The other is a female, very large, and bright blue, with a few faint white bands around her tail. She's berried right now and the father is either a tangtai, the other blue steel, a shadow panda, or Ruby red with pinto genes. I found it very interesting how diverse this pheno is. Unless one of these isn't really a blue steel? Perhaps just a hormonally induced color change in the female? What do you all think? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vshrimp Posted June 19, 2016 Report Share Posted June 19, 2016 Bottom pics looks like a BB female to me Sent from my SM-N910P using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. F Posted June 20, 2016 Author Report Share Posted June 20, 2016 Bottom pics looks like a BB female to me Sent from my SM-N910P using Tapatalk It was sold to me as a blue steel. She definitely looked a lot like it before. Here's an older pic from when she first came in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DETAquarium Posted June 20, 2016 Report Share Posted June 20, 2016 Definitely looks to be a Blue Bolt. Unfortunately, that will be a problem going forward as many people similar to PRL like to take advantage of customers. Not saying this scenario is the case, but it certainly helps to know the initial breeder of the "Steel" to know it was actually derived from a proper crossing. EricM, colorfan and Vshrimp 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vshrimp Posted June 20, 2016 Report Share Posted June 20, 2016 It was sold to me as a blue steel. She definitely looked a lot like it before. Here's an older pic from when she first came in. I just keep seeing a BB tbh. BB will change colors when berried. They get really dark blue looking like an EBB Sent from my SM-N910P using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kurobom Posted June 20, 2016 Report Share Posted June 20, 2016 From reading Breeders 'n Keepers, I thought the Steel Blue colour and pattern was originally from Germany. The carapace was a dark grey steely blue and the abdomen was white in those pictures. The male certainly looks like he matches this description. The female in her unberried form looks like this too (though the blue looks more like a BB blue), but being berried now, perhaps the hormonal changes has brought out more blue in her body overall. I find that my BBs colour intensities change depending on what I feed. Maybe she'll change back after the shrimplets come? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DETAquarium Posted June 20, 2016 Report Share Posted June 20, 2016 Steel Blue isn't just a phenotype, it is a Taitibee. From my understanding derived from crossing a Pseudo Tibee with TB, more likely a Blue Bolt is my guess. Kurobom 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colorfan Posted June 20, 2016 Report Share Posted June 20, 2016 female look BB to me also Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soothing Shrimp Posted June 20, 2016 Report Share Posted June 20, 2016 This is why I'm going back into neos. Seems no matter how hard I try, I can't escape shrimp being sold by phenotype rather than genotype. ;-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. F Posted June 22, 2016 Author Report Share Posted June 22, 2016 This is why I'm going back into neos. Seems no matter how hard I try, I can't escape shrimp being sold by phenotype rather than genotype. ;-) Well I'm having kind of the opposite experience. I know neither is pure TB/BB, for sure. In fact, If I remember correctly one is Tangtai or TT x BB and the other is Aura x BB, so I understand why the phenotypes are different... but they're REALLY different and sometimes change from week to week. It's very interesting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nuri Posted June 22, 2016 Report Share Posted June 22, 2016 I quess it is a blue bolt. A blue steel would not change the color to full body blue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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