brunoboy650 Posted January 31, 2015 Report Share Posted January 31, 2015 Hey guys and gals, My name is Shane, new to the shrimp world and here to learn a few things, I just setup a 35 gallon tank two weeks ago with some Malaysian drift wood, Rocks, and using playsand for substrate.As for plants, Anubias, Java moss and some type of African moss? I can't exactly remember what its called lol. Its filtered using a Eheim Canister filter connected to a dual sponge filter. Temp is at 75*F and cycling is almost done. I hope to keep some CRS or OEBT's and want to learn everything I can to have the most beautifully colored and healthy shrimp I can. Any advice would be noted. Thanks -Shane SurraGync, Alfrediacag and Timothylem 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soothing Shrimp Posted January 31, 2015 Report Share Posted January 31, 2015 You came to the right spot. Welcome! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesHe Posted January 31, 2015 Report Share Posted January 31, 2015 OEBT is good, CRS is not. CRS needs soft acidic water. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metageologist Posted January 31, 2015 Report Share Posted January 31, 2015 Welcome. You should turn your temp down to about 70. 75 is on the warm side. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brunoboy650 Posted January 31, 2015 Author Report Share Posted January 31, 2015 You came to the right spot. Welcome! Thank you! OEBT is good, CRS is not. CRS needs soft acidic water. OEBT are really nice, how are the BTOE? Welcome. You should turn your temp down to about 70. 75 is on the warm side. I definitely will, I heard high temps were good for cycling speed up though, how true is that , I will never know lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesHe Posted January 31, 2015 Report Share Posted January 31, 2015 BTOE is pretty hard to find, but should have similar water parameters as OEBT. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brunoboy650 Posted January 31, 2015 Author Report Share Posted January 31, 2015 BTOE is pretty hard to find, but should have similar water parameters as OEBT. are they? how come? and whats going rate for them? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesHe Posted January 31, 2015 Report Share Posted January 31, 2015 are they? how come? and whats going rate for them? BTOE = Black Tiger Orange Eye, it's hard to find. OEBT = Orange Eye Blue Tiger, this one is easy to find. brunoboy650 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brunoboy650 Posted January 31, 2015 Author Report Share Posted January 31, 2015 BTOE = Black Tiger Orange Eye, it's hard to find. OEBT = Orange Eye Blue Tiger, this one is easy to find. I get that but are the BTOE the same as a black diamond? And what's the cost to buy a BTOE if you can find them vs price on a OEBT? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesHe Posted January 31, 2015 Report Share Posted January 31, 2015 I get that but are the BTOE the same as a black diamond? And what's the cost to buy a BTOE if you can find them vs price on a OEBT? No, Black Diamond has black eye. It's not available in US. brunoboy650 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brunoboy650 Posted January 31, 2015 Author Report Share Posted January 31, 2015 No, Black Diamond has black eye. It's not available in US. Ohhh hmm, so they are super rare then right? Both BTOE and Black Diamond? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metageologist Posted January 31, 2015 Report Share Posted January 31, 2015 Before you runout and buy expensive shrimp. What are your water peramiters, pH, gh, kh, TDS. Soothing Shrimp and chibikaie 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jadenlea Posted January 31, 2015 Report Share Posted January 31, 2015 Welcome bruno. I see you are anxious to jump right in! For OEBT you are looking at probably about 5 - 7 dollars per shrimp. Less if you are willing to take peoples "Culls" and start selective breeding yourself. Culls are when the person breeding them pulls out the less desirable or lower quality to improve their line. Sometimes it is not even a matter of quality but they are trying to get one particular trait so they pull anything that is a threat to that trait. I can't remember the last time I saw btoes for sale and I browse aquabid and ebay regularly. I think what people were trying to get at, is that shrimp are famous for dying and you might want to start with less expensive shrimp to get your feet wet before going for the expensive stuff. The big problem with shrimp death is that they usually don't die right away. You will buy them, and they will seem fine, so you buy more.. then a month or 6 weeks later they start dying one by one and you get to solve the mystery of what exactly is not right in your tank. Whatever you decide to do... it is addicting and you will love it! Soothing Shrimp, Shrimpie and Pika 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soothing Shrimp Posted January 31, 2015 Report Share Posted January 31, 2015 Well said, Jadenlea! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesHe Posted January 31, 2015 Report Share Posted January 31, 2015 Ohhh hmm, so they are super rare then right? Both BTOE and Black Diamond? Yes. the closer one you can get is Royal Blue, which has lighter blue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brunoboy650 Posted January 31, 2015 Author Report Share Posted January 31, 2015 Before you runout and buy expensive shrimp. What are your water peramiters, pH, gh, kh, TDS. I will find out later today, What is TDS by the way? I know the terms for everything else but not sure what TDS is and how to check it. Welcome bruno. I see you are anxious to jump right in! For OEBT you are looking at probably about 5 - 7 dollars per shrimp. Less if you are willing to take peoples "Culls" and start selective breeding yourself. Culls are when the person breeding them pulls out the less desirable or lower quality to improve their line. Sometimes it is not even a matter of quality but they are trying to get one particular trait so they pull anything that is a threat to that trait. I can't remember the last time I saw btoes for sale and I browse aquabid and ebay regularly. I think what people were trying to get at, is that shrimp are famous for dying and you might want to start with less expensive shrimp to get your feet wet before going for the expensive stuff. The big problem with shrimp death is that they usually don't die right away. You will buy them, and they will seem fine, so you buy more.. then a month or 6 weeks later they start dying one by one and you get to solve the mystery of what exactly is not right in your tank. Whatever you decide to do... it is addicting and you will love it! Thank you for the insight, I have met a few craigslist hobbyist that have CRS for pretty cheap, usually $3 each or so. and i don't mind taking on the task of lower quality for the fact of learning. I appreciate the help and motivation Yes. the closer one you can get is Royal Blue, which has lighter blue. oh ok thats cool. I like the coloring of the OEBT's, well I like the coloring of Blue shrimp in general so I guess I will look into those aha. Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jadenlea Posted January 31, 2015 Report Share Posted January 31, 2015 Just so you know.. Crs need water of ph around 6.0 - 6.2 and the Tigers you like need Ph 7 plus so you cant keep them in the same tank. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jadenlea Posted January 31, 2015 Report Share Posted January 31, 2015 If you like blues, check out carbon rili, blue Rili, blue Velvet, blue dream. blue pearl... All are more forgiving about water parameters. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brunoboy650 Posted January 31, 2015 Author Report Share Posted January 31, 2015 Just so you know.. Crs need water of ph around 6.0 - 6.2 and the Tigers you like need Ph 7 plus so you cant keep them in the same tank. oh yea I know, I don't want to cross either so I will be keeping it as one Type of shrimp If you like blues, check out carbon rili, blue Rili, blue Velvet, blue dream. blue pearl... All are more forgiving about water parameters. will look into it thank you! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metageologist Posted January 31, 2015 Report Share Posted January 31, 2015 TDS= total dissolved solids. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brunoboy650 Posted January 31, 2015 Author Report Share Posted January 31, 2015 TDS= total dissolved solids. Thanks and how do you test that? Is it a must ? CharlesWex 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesHe Posted January 31, 2015 Report Share Posted January 31, 2015 Thanks and how do you test that? Is it a must ? Buy a TDS meter, it's below $20. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brunoboy650 Posted January 31, 2015 Author Report Share Posted January 31, 2015 Will buy a rds meter, as of today cycling doesn't seem to be happening fast, not at all good for any survival. What can I do to fix the PH, GH and KH? PH:8.0 Nitrite:5.0 ammonia:.25 nitrate:10 GH:18 KH:6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jadenlea Posted January 31, 2015 Report Share Posted January 31, 2015 . this is the TDS meter I have.. works fine for pretty cheap http://www.amazon.com/HM-Digital-TDS-EZ-Measurement-Resolution/dp/B002C0A7ZY/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1422744257&sr=8-1&keywords=tds+meter Sadly you are probably going to need to use some RO water . due to your GH . (Or distilled water) I forget what size tank you have. If its a small tank its not bad. If its a large tank that can get expensive. it will lower your PH also which is fine.. Tigers like it closer to 7 anyway. I think 8ph is the top of the meter for them. I bet this is turning into a bigger project than you thought huh? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jadenlea Posted January 31, 2015 Report Share Posted January 31, 2015 This is a great chart that helped me alot when I first started. As you see, the Neo type shrimp are most forgiving... http://www.shrimpkeeping.com/water-params/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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