EricM Posted March 3, 2015 Report Share Posted March 3, 2015 its not possible. period. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyeGuy411 Posted March 3, 2015 Author Report Share Posted March 3, 2015 You've tried it Eric? I've got a berried shrimp and unless it was an immaculate conception a panda knocked her up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EricM Posted March 3, 2015 Report Share Posted March 3, 2015 ok that was a bit harsh. sorry,,,, but I'd like to see what happens from this.. just so we are clear you said tb. you meant taiwan bee not taibee correct? those terms get confused easily. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyeGuy411 Posted March 3, 2015 Author Report Share Posted March 3, 2015 Yes Taiwan Bee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EricM Posted March 3, 2015 Report Share Posted March 3, 2015 ok... I've talked about this before with a few of the most experienced breeders in the world. like what has been posted that the fertility and survival rate of the babies is EXTREMELY low and very likely none will survive. I'll address it with them again to get a clearer answer for you. RyeGuy411 and Soothing Shrimp 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyeGuy411 Posted March 3, 2015 Author Report Share Posted March 3, 2015 Cool I'm curious hear what they say. I wasn't really trying to do this I have three chocolate neos in my TB tank that I don't want reproducing so when I noticed she was ready to berry put her in the breeder box. I thought what the heck my panda is one horny dude so let's put him in there and see what happens. He is a sexual bully in my tank so I figured if it could happen he would make it happen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ch3fb0yrdee Posted March 3, 2015 Report Share Posted March 3, 2015 Cool I'm curious hear what they say. I wasn't really trying to do this I have three chocolate neos in my TB tank that I don't want reproducing so when I noticed she was ready to berry put her in the breeder box. I thought what the heck my panda is one horny dude so let's put him in there and see what happens. He is a sexual bully in my tank so I figured if it could happen he would make it happen. Here's how I see it. 1. You did breed a neo x caridina = amazing. 2. You did breed a neo x caridina but babies die or grows up sterile = still amazing and disproof the common belief that they don't mix. 3. You didn't breed a neo x caridina it was a mistake = ehhh honest mistake. Not trying to trick anyone. No biggie. Fun exciting moment. Regardless, this is still pretty exciting. We're here to learn and explore new possibilities. Just because someone, somewhere said it's not possible doesn't mean it's true. Same thing with folks still believing co2 + ferts is a no no in shrimp tanks. woopderson 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soothing Shrimp Posted March 3, 2015 Report Share Posted March 3, 2015 "Same thing with folks still believing co2 + ferts is a no no in shrimp tanks." That's another discussion altogether. LOL EricM 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ch3fb0yrdee Posted March 3, 2015 Report Share Posted March 3, 2015 BAHAHAHAH. Yes, I think we know. That was just is example of a heated debate. Didn't mean to open any cans of worms. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spialz Posted March 3, 2015 Report Share Posted March 3, 2015 This is why I love this forum. There's people on here every day trying new things and testing old beliefs. I think that's the only way to really discover everything these shrimp have to offer. Lots and lots and LOTS of trials. This particular topic is extremely interesting and I cant wait to see what becomes of it. Perhaps you should make a journal? Detailing all of the specifics of your setup, parents, and documenting the offspring. Id be curious to see their development and whether or not subsequent generations will be able to breed. Exciting stuff for sure! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EricM Posted March 4, 2015 Report Share Posted March 4, 2015 from another major breeder..... "Hi Eric. I have not heard of such cross, nor I have personal experience on it. I am not sure what stage of the cross now. A cross won't consider successful unless the eggs hatch. And for some females, they can carry egg without successful fertilisation" doesnt mean its not possible, but sharing because I asked. Soothing Shrimp, Pika, RyeGuy411 and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soothing Shrimp Posted March 4, 2015 Report Share Posted March 4, 2015 Time will tell, I guess. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve R. Posted March 4, 2015 Report Share Posted March 4, 2015 I wonder if the female already carried some sperms with her that she stored from the other neos in your tank. Is this possible? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyeGuy411 Posted March 4, 2015 Author Report Share Posted March 4, 2015 I guess it's possible there are two male neos in that tank. She was in the breeder box about 20 hours when I found her berried. I will just have to wait and see. Soothing Shrimp 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soothing Shrimp Posted March 4, 2015 Report Share Posted March 4, 2015 I admire that you are keeping an open mind, Rye. In all honesty, I sometimes get so excited with a project, I occasionally become tunnel visioned. An example was my supposed white neo in my pumpkin tank recently. I tried to keep an open mind, but man was it hard! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyeGuy411 Posted March 4, 2015 Author Report Share Posted March 4, 2015 Either way Bryce the original intention was to keep the chocolates from breeding in the TB tank. So I think I could be successful there if all else fails. If the results are mixed I would try it again with a cherry shrimp. Soothing Shrimp 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGardenofEder Posted March 4, 2015 Report Share Posted March 4, 2015 Hmm 20 hours and you think the panda is the dad? Dont the eggs get fertile in the saddle? And then drop several days later Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mayphly Posted March 4, 2015 Report Share Posted March 4, 2015 Hmm 20 hours and you think the panda is the dad? Dont the eggs get fertile in the saddle? And then drop several days later The eggs are fertilized as they pass from the ovaries to her undercarriage. Soothing Shrimp and RyeGuy411 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monty703 Posted March 5, 2015 Report Share Posted March 5, 2015 need pics of the mamma so we can watch this great event happen...cool. I was hoping one of my Blue Dreams would knock up my big Crystal White Bee mamma, but so far Nada....oh well, still time. If yours works out I will put both of them in my Marina large box. RyeGuy411 and Soothing Shrimp 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyeGuy411 Posted March 5, 2015 Author Report Share Posted March 5, 2015 Here is the mama she is hard to see because she is brown. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soothing Shrimp Posted March 5, 2015 Report Share Posted March 5, 2015 Are you sure that's the one? I see no eggs. (?) Did she drop them? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyeGuy411 Posted March 5, 2015 Author Report Share Posted March 5, 2015 Thats her for sure, its really hard to see them becuase of how dark she is. I saw her last night with the full clutch hanging from her. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
High5's Posted March 5, 2015 Report Share Posted March 5, 2015 We live in a sea of endless possibility's in time anything is possible. The more time that passes the improbable becomes possible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyeGuy411 Posted March 6, 2015 Author Report Share Posted March 6, 2015 Ok I was finally able to get the right angle that shows her eggs. If anyone has ever tried to photograph berried chocolate shrimp with an I phone it's not easy. mayphly and EricM 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soothing Shrimp Posted March 6, 2015 Report Share Posted March 6, 2015 Nice shot. You have beautiful coverage on her, Rye. Crazyfishlady and RyeGuy411 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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