sarah Posted February 1, 2016 Report Share Posted February 1, 2016 99% sure those are copepods. Totally harmless (and very cute close up)! Soothing Shrimp 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soothing Shrimp Posted February 1, 2016 Report Share Posted February 1, 2016 yepper. Harmless. One of the things we see with shrimp tanks. Fish eat 'em, so you don't see them in those tanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eternalc Posted February 2, 2016 Author Report Share Posted February 2, 2016 99% sure those are copepods. Totally harmless (and very cute close up)! yepper. Harmless. One of the things we see with shrimp tanks. Fish eat 'em, so you don't see them in those tanks. ok.. now that you guys said it, perhaps it is copepod. i remember seeing this one guy with two big balls behind him moving around, albeit slower than the one in the video. anyhow, thanks for the feedback guys Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sarah Posted February 2, 2016 Report Share Posted February 2, 2016 The "big balls" are egg sacs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eternalc Posted February 2, 2016 Author Report Share Posted February 2, 2016 The "big balls" are egg sacs oh my... i think i squashed the one with the big balls lol since it was moving slower and not as agile because i was scared it was something predatory Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eternalc Posted February 2, 2016 Author Report Share Posted February 2, 2016 another quick update, i saw 3 molt leftover since the day i put them in. one is stuck between the edges of the sponge filter, which scared me for awhile as it looks like a dead shrimp. hopefully, i can see berried female soon this is by far the most active, or rather, super active shrimp inside, which i believe / hope going to be berried soon. it loves to go round and round the tank while others just chilling out doing their own business. i blanched a papaya leaf and left it on the glass bowl. so far none of them has touched it yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vpier Posted February 2, 2016 Report Share Posted February 2, 2016 another quick update, i saw 3 molt leftover since the day i put them in. one is stuck between the edges of the sponge filter, which scared me for awhile as it looks like a dead shrimp. hopefully, i can see berried female soon this is by far the most active, or rather, super active shrimp inside, which i believe / hope going to be berried soon. it loves to go round and round the tank while others just chilling out doing their own business. i blanched a papaya leaf and left it on the glass bowl. so far none of them has touched it yet. The leaf will take a while before the shrimps eat. Boiling for 10min or so helps break down the cellulose and makes it much easier for the shrimps to eat. Dry leaves are better than green since its better to have the chlorophyll gone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eternalc Posted February 2, 2016 Author Report Share Posted February 2, 2016 The leaf will take a while before the shrimps eat. Boiling for 10min or so helps break down the cellulose and makes much easier for the shrimps to eat. Dry leaves are better than green since its better to have the chlorophyll gone. i boiled it for about 3 or 4 minutes, and the leftover i kept it in the freezer lol. should i reboil them for a longer period of time before putting them in? i'm abit skeptical for dried papaya leaves. since the one i see on my backyard are yellowish and looks mushy, instead of dried. or maybe i just pluck one down and left it there to dry? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vinn Posted February 2, 2016 Report Share Posted February 2, 2016 I didnt read most comments and so i apologize if someone already mentioned this but those rocks will raise your gh and tds which isnt such a big deal since you have neos which are pretty hardy, but just keep that in mind. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eternalc Posted February 2, 2016 Author Report Share Posted February 2, 2016 I didnt read most comments and so i apologize if someone already mentioned this but those rocks will raise your gh and tds which isnt such a big deal since you have neos which are pretty hardy, but just keep that in mind. hi! thanks for stopping by! i appreciate any comments / critics / information. the last tds i measured was around 180. gh and kh i believe that the ada soil will keep it in check and stable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soothing Shrimp Posted February 2, 2016 Report Share Posted February 2, 2016 I don't use ada soil, so someone please correct me if I'm wrong- but I think ada soil just buffers ph and doesn't do anything to gh/kh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eternalc Posted February 3, 2016 Author Report Share Posted February 3, 2016 I don't use ada soil, so someone please correct me if I'm wrong- but I think ada soil just buffers ph and doesn't do anything to gh/kh haha... but from my experience it does buffer gh kh. ph is the one that i need to adjust with the wizard water. but i might be wrong too myself.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eternalc Posted February 5, 2016 Author Report Share Posted February 5, 2016 did a water change two days ago. noticed that the two females are extremely active, going round and round the tank while the males just chilling out. have yet to see any molted shell after water change. meanwhile, a little supper story: oh, i found a yummy food! all mine!! here comes a new challenger!! hey you! what you think you're doing? who run the world? girls!!! Shrimp Life 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eternalc Posted February 12, 2016 Author Report Share Posted February 12, 2016 hi guys, its been a while. during my absence here, i've added some plants, with additional shrimps, namely velvet blue and malayan shrimp. all was good, up until yesterday when there's visitors with 3 very naughty kids. they banged on cabinet on which the tank is on. very loud indeed, which almost made me snapped at them. i even raised my voice. dumb parents act dumb and stupid pretending nothing happened. fast forward few hours later into the night, i saw 2 or 3 shrimp acting weird. 1 female was jumping as if it was struggling from something. it wasn't a failed molting from what i see. occasionally landing sideway, or swim upward then just fall free fall down, like a dead shrimp. but still manage to move itself. same goes for another male shrimp, but not as active as the female. water is ok. i dont think the kids was stupid enough to drop anything inside. didnt do any water change since i dont want to stress the shrimp out. the other shrimps is acting fine. this morning i checked up on them, did not on the lights so cant really see into the back part of the tank. so far, no dead shrimp in the front. or it could have been consumed by the other shrimp? i dont know. i'll check them out again tonight when i'm back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soothing Shrimp Posted February 12, 2016 Report Share Posted February 12, 2016 If all they did was make noises on the cabinet, then IMO what you are noticing right now is coincidence. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eternalc Posted February 12, 2016 Author Report Share Posted February 12, 2016 If all they did was make noises on the cabinet, then IMO what you are noticing right now is coincidence. noise on the cabinet, yes loud thudding on the cabinet, yes. vibration on the tank, unsure coincidence as in? water problem? or they do that sometimes? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soothing Shrimp Posted February 12, 2016 Report Share Posted February 12, 2016 Coincidence in whatever is happening to your shrimp right now has nothing to do with the thudding. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eternalc Posted February 12, 2016 Author Report Share Posted February 12, 2016 Coincidence in whatever is happening to your shrimp right now has nothing to do with the thudding. hmmm... but of all the time... i'm a bit skeptical Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eternalc Posted March 29, 2016 Author Report Share Posted March 29, 2016 after 3 months into this tank setup, this is basically what it looks like currently there are 11 shrimps in the tank. 4 blue velvets, 3 red fire and 4 malaya. many of them hiding somewhere. as you can see, i still dont know what to do with the right spot under the filter. thinking of putting some other stem plant but not sure how it would look with the filter above it. the rotala on the middle eventually gonna grow bushy. my initial thought was that rotala was a single stem grower, never knew it would branches out every time i trim it lol. i'm just concerned that it would clash against my christmas moss tree on the left. total KIA done for each shrimp type was : BV - 9 Malaya - 0 Red fire - 1 malaya was really tough, which speaks from their size, almost triple of the BV. no problems with them since day 1 i put them in. the BV on the other hand has some trouble settling in the water. to summarize it up, i was left with 3 BV and 4 malaya last week, before i brought in another male BV and 4 Fire Red. all the BV left were females and all are saddled up. so i went and get a male together with harem of 1 male and 3 female Fire Reds. 1 female Fire Red KIA the next day, but one of the BV is berried! talk about horny shrimp, the next day another BV is berried! Perhaps tonight the last female would also be berried? oh well... that is why there's not much activities you can see there on my tank picture. the two berried females are hanging out around the filter sponge area. 2 berried females but 2 different characteristic that i can see from them. the first pregnant shrimp was a bit nervous i would say. it will fan its eggs every few seconds and do nothing else. the second pregnant shrimp was more relaxed and chilled out. it would swim about (but still not far from the filter area) and fan its eggs occasionally. the pictures above is the second pregnant BV, while the first one is a little bit hard to take so i left it out. now comes the hard part. how do i change water for these guys? i do a routine weekly water change and the deadline is coming soon, or rather, today. and there's this algae that is sticking on tank glass that i would want to brush away. but i'm concerned that doing this would stress the berried shrimps. any suggestions are welcome. please hit the comment button. Fire red saying goodbye!! Shrimple minded 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eternalc Posted April 13, 2016 Author Report Share Posted April 13, 2016 so, two weeks passed since the shrimps got berried. here's the update. first berried shrimp died. the one that i mentioned that was particularly stressed / nervous. found her dead less than 24 hour since the last time i observed her. i usually observed my shrimp every time i got back home, just to see how are they doing and all. i was so sad. i dont want those eggs to die with her too. so i salvaged the eggs and tried artificial hatching. first thing i did was i washed my hand thoroughly. no soap no shampoo. just water. then i picked the dead shrimp up with a tweezers. holding the head area with the tweezers, i used a plastic spoon to "scoop" the eggs out. before that, do prepare a bowl filled with tank water and do the step above the bowl so the eggs / shrimp would fall into the water in case of a messed up. i used plastic as i dont want any metals to have any effects on the eggs. yeah i know i'm very speculative lol even if i dont know if it does affect the eggs or not. during the process, being a rough person that i am, sad to say that the mother shrimp was utterly destroyed and annihilated by me. it was that hard to hold the soft vulnerable tiny shrimp at the same time not to crushed it. lets just say the shrimp has the smell of a prawn. so somehow i managed to salvage all the eggs inside. i guess there was around 20. so the problem now is how and where do i place these eggs? i did my homework. the most popular guide was about a guy putting the eggs inside a bottle, doing a WC every 3 days and fanning them. although he succeeded, i'm not very convinced of this method. so i came up with this idea, which i realized were being used by others too. i took a thin layer of an unused new "tank filter fiber"(i dont know what do you call it) put it in my fish net. it kinda floats up so make sure that it sinks below water at least 2 inch below water. i placed the net near the water outlet so that it has good fresh flow of water, stimulating the mum fanning her eggs. the fish net is for protection from other shrimp to feast on it. another important point is, i made sure that the top of the fish net is above the water level. this is to prevent the other shrimp to climb in into the net and feast on the eggs. after setting everything up, i poured down the eggs from the bowl into the net. in the picture above, the eggs can be seen on the middle top of the filter fiber. there's other eggs too but it was too small to be seen individually by my camera. from then on, i could only pray and watch. a bigger picture on how i place the fish net. i used a big cloth clipper to keep the fish net in place as you can see on the bottom right of the picture. i did my regular water change of once a week, but with 15% instead of the usual 30%. tried to do it as gently as i could without stressing the other berried shrimp. a week later, the third shrimp was finally berried too. i checked on the eggs every single day. as day passed by, i noticed that the eggs were getting darker in color, like dark orange. i was actually planning to give up on the eggs after almost 2 weeks as i think the eggs has died as the color was different from the one inside the tank (the shrimp which berried the day after the dead shrimp berried). but i hold on, saying to myself at least wait till the second shrimp hatch and if they dont hatch by then, perhaps i should give up. i'm glad i made that decision. yesterday when i got back, i checked the eggs as usual, and noticed that they were gone! first thing that came into my mind was, did they evaporated? LOL!! then i checked beneath the filter fiber, lots of shrimplets!!! it was a success. then i checked on the second berried shrimp, she too was unloading her eggs which is hatching too. i felt so damn proud. sorry no pictures of the shrimplets in the net, as i was too focus on getting them out into the tank. if you can see, there's still at least two eggs still in the process of hatching. few hours before that there were around 10+. all are good at hiding, as i can only find a few to be seen. the father, and his offspring below him. now lets hope all those shrimplets will grow up well and make me proud and by the way, anyone recognize what is this below? i found two inside my tank and i quickly took them out. the mouth is located at the end (the darker red part) and it open up as big as its body. fernselvis, ibebian and Mr. F 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DETAquarium Posted April 13, 2016 Report Share Posted April 13, 2016 Sorry for your loss, but I am glad to see you were successful in artificially hatching your eggs! We all live and learn in this hobby and sometimes these successes put all the defeats away. What color was the worm in the tank? Was it red the entire time? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soothing Shrimp Posted April 13, 2016 Report Share Posted April 13, 2016 I'm guessing leech. Great write up on your artificial hatching success! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ibebian Posted April 13, 2016 Report Share Posted April 13, 2016 Whoa that's awesome, great work! How long from getting berried to hatching, sounds like about 2 weeks? Isn't it typically about 20-30 days? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eternalc Posted April 14, 2016 Author Report Share Posted April 14, 2016 12 hours ago, DETAquarium said: Sorry for your loss, but I am glad to see you were successful in artificially hatching your eggs! We all live and learn in this hobby and sometimes these successes put all the defeats away. What color was the worm in the tank? Was it red the entire time? yeah, thanks! i'm glad i did what i did yup, it was that color the entire time, if not redder 8 hours ago, Soothing Shrimp said: I'm guessing leech. Great write up on your artificial hatching success! i'm thinking of that too, but how did it came in? hmmmm 32 minutes ago, ibebian said: Whoa that's awesome, great work! How long from getting berried to hatching, sounds like about 2 weeks? Isn't it typically about 20-30 days? yes its awesome! it took just a little bit more than 2 weeks for my shrimps, i'm thinking around 16 or 17, could be less. i'm guessing its because of the temperature of my tank? i did heard somewhere that warmer water can lead to faster hatching. my water temp during day time is 28. and maybe sometimes 29 or 30 during a real hot day. and its around 26 during a cool night. my country is in the equator line, hence tropical rainforest kind of weather. but i dont encourage setting the temp up purposely just to have a faster hatch Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ibebian Posted April 14, 2016 Report Share Posted April 14, 2016 Oh yes that is quite warm, 28C = 82.7F. My water is 24-25C which is considered warm by many here. I have 2 berried RCS and noticed recently that the mothers are hiding more often, it has been about 14 days. My suspicion is that they are getting close and becoming more shy to be safe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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