Soothing Shrimp Posted April 18, 2016 Report Share Posted April 18, 2016 As most of you know, my experience over the last several years has been working with neos. Now, I'm entering cards. I know what to look for with infections for neos, but cards are a different shrimp entirely. Is there anything to look for with cards besides broken antennae? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fernselvis Posted April 18, 2016 Report Share Posted April 18, 2016 Hi soothing I have had lot of dead shrimp mainly card. Discoloration on the dead shrimp is way to may be figure out what's wrong with them. I read sign that's there is an infection is when you start losing 2 or 3 shrimps everyday. I had an article with all the different diseases and symptom stored somewhere in a safe place will look for it and post it here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fernselvis Posted April 18, 2016 Report Share Posted April 18, 2016 Found it. http://shrimpkeepersforum.com/forum/topic/5052-shrimp-diseases-and-diagnosis/ mayphly and Soothing Shrimp 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soothing Shrimp Posted April 18, 2016 Author Report Share Posted April 18, 2016 Thanks. I had that in my book marks and forgot about it! LOL fernselvis 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jadenlea Posted April 18, 2016 Report Share Posted April 18, 2016 You could get that lowkey stuff for bacterial prevention. I have a bottle that Ive been waiting for the warm weather to hit to use. Actuallly need to make a post about it later with some questions. svetilda 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soothing Shrimp Posted April 18, 2016 Author Report Share Posted April 18, 2016 I may do that Jaden. Thanks for the reminder. I'm a bit paranoid now that I flipped almost all my neos for various cards. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OMG Aquatics Posted April 18, 2016 Report Share Posted April 18, 2016 I'm currently using Dr Tims eco balance for bacterial prevention. I only had a bacterial infection once long ago in my snowball tank due to being new to the hobby and failed to properly maintain the tank. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soothing Shrimp Posted April 18, 2016 Author Report Share Posted April 18, 2016 I really like the board, too. Thinking about that as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fernselvis Posted April 18, 2016 Report Share Posted April 18, 2016 Never heard of it what are those products and what do they do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jadenlea Posted April 18, 2016 Report Share Posted April 18, 2016 hmmm didnt know there was a dr tims product. I bet its ALOT less expensive than the lowkey. maybe Ill try dr tim on the other tanks and lowkey on the tb tank. It would be interesting to know what is in each. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OMG Aquatics Posted April 18, 2016 Report Share Posted April 18, 2016 Recovers : Mozuku Fucoidan Extract Powder, Dextrin. Eco Balance : 100% natural, probiotic bacteria Eco Balance is around $12 and treats 480 gallons Recovers is around $32 and treats 105 gallons ShrimpP 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shrimple minded Posted April 18, 2016 Report Share Posted April 18, 2016 Poops, what kind of dosing are you using for the Dr. Tims Eco Balance? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OMG Aquatics Posted April 18, 2016 Report Share Posted April 18, 2016 3 minutes ago, Shrimple minded said: Poops, what kind of dosing are you using for the Dr. Tims Eco Balance? 10mL per 10 gallon after every water change. Be sure not to dose more than one bacterial supplement per day! Shrimple minded 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jadenlea Posted April 18, 2016 Report Share Posted April 18, 2016 so sounds like they work completely different from one another. I googled and Dextrin is a fiber... Not sure if its being used for its own health benefits or as a binder. The first ingredient is a seaweed that it seems absorbs lots of minerals from the ocean. At least according to google. Not sure how this wards against bacterial infection but i am no biologist. Is the Dr times just another bacteria supplement? I already use the Vita from Shrimpydaddy. I wonder if they work the same Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OMG Aquatics Posted April 18, 2016 Report Share Posted April 18, 2016 2 minutes ago, Jadenlea said: so sounds like they work completely different from one another. I googled and Dextrin is a fiber... Not sure if its being used for its own health benefits or as a binder. The first ingredient is a seaweed that it seems absorbs lots of minerals from the ocean. At least according to google. Not sure how this wards against bacterial infection but i am no biologist. Is the Dr times just another bacteria supplement? I already use the Vita from Shrimpydaddy. I wonder if they work the same Eco Balance is a probiotic bacteria supplement. I honestly feel like Vita is the same as Eco Balance, Waste-Away and One and Only all combined together. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jadenlea Posted April 19, 2016 Report Share Posted April 19, 2016 Wow guys,... just a tip. I was lookign for the Dr Tims Eco Balance. I had a hard time finding it on Prime so I went to Dr Tims website. The 16 oz on dr tims site is $19 + shipping Then I cut and paste the exact name and found it on amazon after all for 12 dollars free shipping with prime. It is on amazon for a lot cheaper. you just have to do the exact wording. Im going to try the recovers on my TB tank since I already have it and the Dr tims on the other 3 since its much more economical Soothing Shrimp 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShrimpP Posted April 19, 2016 Report Share Posted April 19, 2016 Cards get different infections than Neos? Or do you just mean that Cards tend to be more sensitive/weaker, causing them to be more prone to infections? Keep water parameters in check, regularly keeping the tank free of excess detritus/mulm/organics build up and a appropriate diet, I would think that would be all that is needed to keep shrimp and any livestock in good health so they don't get sick. Sure, probiotics can be beneficial, but I personally wouldn't think they are necessary. By the way though, Kensfish has a variety of foods that have probiotics in them (even veggie sticks w/ calcium). http://www.kensfish.com/aquarium-supplies/fish-food-feeders/kens-premium-sinking-sticks.html Yogurt has probiotics, not sure if anyone has tried feeding yogurt to shrimp haha. But in the aquascaping world, people have used a method that uses yogurt as a adhesive to stick tiny moss to driftwood, and the yogurt has been munched on by shrimps (I'm sure a bunch of microorganisms grow onto the yogurt as well, so even better!) I would just add "botanicals" like Indian Almond Leaves, Cholla wood/cactus, Alder cones, etc. as they do provide anti-bacterial properties (as well as a microorganism growing food source). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fernselvis Posted April 19, 2016 Report Share Posted April 19, 2016 What are the different types of cholla wood I was trying to find the one deta uses in his tanks couldn't find it on amazon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShrimpP Posted April 19, 2016 Report Share Posted April 19, 2016 35 minutes ago, fernselvis said: What are the different types of cholla wood I was trying to find the one deta uses in his tanks couldn't find it on amazon. Cholla (Cylindropuntia, synonym Opuntia) species https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cylindropuntia http://archive.bio.ed.ac.uk/jdeacon/desertecology/cholla.htm http://www.desertusa.com/cactus/cholla-cactus.html Didn't see what DETA uses, but I recall someone saying they bought Teddy Bear cholla (Opuntia bigelovii). Not sure what the most common cholla species is that we use in our aquariums (perhaps it doesn't matter? cholla is cholla?). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fernselvis Posted April 19, 2016 Report Share Posted April 19, 2016 Yeah teddy is the name thnx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fernselvis Posted April 19, 2016 Report Share Posted April 19, 2016 Do you ll get it for free in the desert or have to buy [emoji4] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShrimpP Posted April 19, 2016 Report Share Posted April 19, 2016 If you have it somewhere locally that you could collect it yourself, then I guess you could. Not sure of the legality of that though (someone else's property and it's part of the wildlife/nature, but it does depend on your location). I think you only collect dead/dried cacti though. I don't have any local spots to harvest it myself, so I just buy mine online. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wygglz Posted April 19, 2016 Report Share Posted April 19, 2016 The Shrimp Tank has teddy bear cholla of you are looking for small pieces Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fernselvis Posted April 25, 2016 Report Share Posted April 25, 2016 I think this is an updated http://shrimpkeepersforum.com/forum/topic/5052-shrimp-diseases-and-diagnosis/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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