JayMarshal Posted October 17, 2014 Report Share Posted October 17, 2014 Found this on FB, anybody ever hear of or try this? I don't keep sulawesi, but if I did, what should a shrimper look for in a sulawesi substrate? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OblongShrimp Posted October 17, 2014 Report Share Posted October 17, 2014 I have had luck just using inert substrate with my sulawesi's. Any other information on that substrate though? JayMarshal 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ctaylor3737 Posted October 17, 2014 Report Share Posted October 17, 2014 Thats pretty cool, I just used the chiclid blend it works great and always on sale lol JayMarshal and EricM 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
countryboy12484 Posted October 17, 2014 Report Share Posted October 17, 2014 I just used argonite Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesHe Posted October 17, 2014 Report Share Posted October 17, 2014 I heard it's like the crushed lava rock. what's the price, if it's reasonable, may try it later. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesHe Posted October 17, 2014 Report Share Posted October 17, 2014 the red lava rock from Lowes or Homedepot is only couple $ per big bag. dirty cheap. JayMarshal 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EricM Posted October 17, 2014 Report Share Posted October 17, 2014 Thats pretty cool, I just used the chiclid blend it works great and always on sale lol same here. ctaylor3737 and JayMarshal 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
High5's Posted October 17, 2014 Report Share Posted October 17, 2014 Found this on FB, anybody ever hear of or try this? I don't keep sulawesi, but if I did, what should a shrimper look for in a sulawesi substrate? It's look's like re packaged blasting sand/lava sand to me. JayMarshal 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JayMarshal Posted October 17, 2014 Author Report Share Posted October 17, 2014 Haha , looks like a big bag of carbon. Oblong, I messaged the seller on FB, still waiting for a reply. I'd like to know why this is targeted for Sulawesi, or so it seems to me. As I mentioned, I don't keep any sulawesi nor have I done any more research that to look at pricing to get a tank going. And has anybody here seen the new color blue dennerle? I wonder if it's stable or just a darker maroon. How many people here are keeping Sulawesi here, if the question isn't off topic Anyhow, I'll share the info when I get it, still no reply Here's the o th e pics with the post from the FB page... ctaylor3737 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
randy Posted October 17, 2014 Report Share Posted October 17, 2014 I know in Taiwan, people use crushed red/black lava rock (imported from Indonesia) for Sulavesi. High5's 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ch3fb0yrdee Posted October 17, 2014 Report Share Posted October 17, 2014 How come people don't use salty shrimp gH/kH+ and use an inert substrate like eco-complete? Everyone usually mineralizer their tanks anwyats right ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soothing Shrimp Posted October 17, 2014 Report Share Posted October 17, 2014 Because Sulawesi usually require around 8+ ph. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ch3fb0yrdee Posted October 17, 2014 Report Share Posted October 17, 2014 KH and PH should have a positive correlation, no? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soothing Shrimp Posted October 17, 2014 Report Share Posted October 17, 2014 ph stays more stable with kh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ch3fb0yrdee Posted October 17, 2014 Report Share Posted October 17, 2014 ph stays more stable with kh Hmm. Let me test my Revive Bianco A+B+G to see if it brings my RO water to the proper ranges for tigers. I was told it was design with Sulawesi and Tiger species in mind. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soothing Shrimp Posted October 17, 2014 Report Share Posted October 17, 2014 That's kinda weird. In the US Tiger shrimp are usually kept around low 7ph, while Sulawesi are usually closer to 8+ph. EricM 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ctaylor3737 Posted October 18, 2014 Report Share Posted October 18, 2014 Haha , looks like a big bag of carbon. Oblong, I messaged the seller on FB, still waiting for a reply. I'd like to know why this is targeted for Sulawesi, or so it seems to me. As I mentioned, I don't keep any sulawesi nor have I done any more research that to look at pricing to get a tank going. And has anybody here seen the new color blue dennerle? I wonder if it's stable or just a darker maroon. How many people here are keeping Sulawesi here, if the question isn't off topic Anyhow, I'll share the info when I get it, still no reply Here's the o th e pics with the post from the FB page... Lol just made a thread about the blue ones. They are a morph of the blue tissue cardinals, basically someone selective bred them to be blue. Which is pretty interesting because there are only a few in my tank that look different from the others. What my plan is to look a them when I first turn the lights on and the ones with the blue bodies I am going to move into thier own tank and try to breed them out from there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ch3fb0yrdee Posted October 18, 2014 Report Share Posted October 18, 2014 That's kinda weird. In the US Tiger shrimp are usually kept around low 7ph, while Sulawesi are usually closer to 8+ph. Not to derail but to here's my results from testing the Revive products. 100% RODI @ 0TDS TDS: 0 GH: 0 KH: 0 Ph: 6.0 (lowest I can read using API) 100% RODI @ 0TDS Mineralized w/ Revive Bianco Alpha & Beta (suitable for CRS and Taiwan Bee) TDS: 125-130 GH: 6 KH: 0 Ph: 6.0 (lowest I can read using API) 100% RODI @ 0TDS Mineralized w/ Revive Bianco Alpha, Beta & Gamma (suitable for Sulawesi & Tigers) TDS: 170-175 GH: 6 KH: 2 Ph: 7.2-7.4 (best reading from API) All tests performed with 2 pumps into 16L of RODI water(1 pump = 2ml) of Alpha, Beta and Gamma. To achieve the ideal Sulawesi parameters, a higher dosage of Gamma would be required. I'll do a more detail write up on my thread. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elo500 Posted October 18, 2014 Report Share Posted October 18, 2014 Never heard of the revive products, where can I buy them? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ch3fb0yrdee Posted October 18, 2014 Report Share Posted October 18, 2014 Never heard of the revive products, where can I buy them? You can't. It's not available for mass market consumption, yet. If you're in need of mineralizer folks like Hans, ooblong, and Bostoneric are known to carry and sell their own line of mineralizers. I'm still testing the Revive Products on my own shrimps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JayMarshal Posted October 24, 2014 Author Report Share Posted October 24, 2014 Finally got a reply. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soothing Shrimp Posted October 24, 2014 Report Share Posted October 24, 2014 I'm confused. I would think gravel would be inert. Does this raise the ph? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ch3fb0yrdee Posted October 24, 2014 Report Share Posted October 24, 2014 I'm confused. I would think gravel would be inert. Does this raise the ph? ...I was thinking that, too... [emoji33] Looks like Eco-Complete. I'm planning on doing an Eco-Complete Sulawesi setup this week. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miwu Posted October 24, 2014 Report Share Posted October 24, 2014 I have heard of Taiwanese breeders using substrate harvested from wherever the Sulawesi shrimps are found. None of them said it's necessary and it's just more expensive, but some people like it. I'd personally just use some inert substrate. In the process of setting up a Sulawesi tank with Eco complete right now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ch3fb0yrdee Posted October 24, 2014 Report Share Posted October 24, 2014 I have heard of Taiwanese breeders using substrate harvested from wherever the Sulawesi shrimps are found. None of them said it's necessary and it's just more expensive, but some people like it. I'd personally just use some inert substrate. In the process of setting up a Sulawesi tank with Eco complete right now. I doubt they'll go through the hassle and spend that much money. What people sell and what they use is rarely the same, especially for profit driven companies like Taiwan farms. My buddy successfully bred Sulawesi about 5 years ago using nothing but tap and some white sand. He even made a journal that people can google for. You'd be amazed at what people can achieve for very little. I agree with you when you said it's not "necessary and it's just more expensive, but some people like it". Similar to how you can get from A to B driving any car. Depending on how you want to arrive. Some like to show up in a Porsche or other similarly expensive car. Drive hard and drive fast. [emoji41] I like my money on my pocket so I drive slow. BHAHA! I like this hobby because people find success in such a wide range of different conditions. I sold a full bodied Blue Bolt and BKK to a local buyer breeding his shrimps in tap water!! San Jose tap water is super hard and he's successful. Goes to show you don't need the shiny items to expensive products to be successful. JayMarshal and Soothing Shrimp 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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